Re: [Elecraft] Three Recordings

2010-01-07 Thread pd0psb
My votes in this contest, can we win a P3 :-) wav #1 is K3. recognized by: -cleanest overall passband (the others obviously have substantial wideband gain *after* the CW filter,resulting in surrounding WB noise) -but K3 has most bumpy-road agc of the 3 73' Paul PD0PSB Delete this message now

Re: [Elecraft] Three Recordings

2010-01-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Paul, The K3 bumpy road AGC can be cured by use of the AGC menu Threshold and Slope parameters, there is no reason for it to be bumpy. Try Threshold 008 and Slope 002 for an AGC response that behaves much like the K2. The slope can be increased if you want all signals to sound closer to the

Re: [Elecraft] Three Recordings

2010-01-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
I find that #1.wav is the most 'quiet' recording because it contains only low frequency (in-passband) content. I believe that is the K3. The others have significant response outside the filter passband, and I would refer to that content outside the passband as noise. I would not refer to

Re: [Elecraft] Three Recordings

2010-01-07 Thread pd0psb
Clear Don, I was referring to this particular wav file, where the AGC threshold is clearly set low and interacting quite strongly with the noisefloor. But ofcourse, not sure yet if I picked the right file :-) 73' Paul PD0PSB Don Wilhelm-4 wrote: Paul, The K3 bumpy road AGC can be

[Elecraft] three recordings - say what?

2010-01-07 Thread DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL
Excuse me, but are all of you guys listening to NOISE ONLY? I mean...noise WITHOUT a signal? What good is that? Sorry, but I never listen to noise on purpose. I cannot see any practical value in such a test. de Doug KR2Q __ Elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] three recordings - say what?

2010-01-07 Thread Don Wilhelm
Doug, *I* do that all the time - but I have a purpose, to align a K2 filter passband. In fact, I add noise at the antenna input with an Elecraft N-Gen. When listening to any band, if the ambient noise level is high, I turn off the preamp and even turn on the attenuator and in some cases reduce

Re: [Elecraft] three recordings - say what?

2010-01-07 Thread Wes Stewart
that distortion, artifacts and whatever else you want to call stuff that shouldn't be there all contributed to fatigue and the ear-brain's ability to discern signals. Wes N7WS --- On Thu, 1/7/10, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL doug...@gmail.com wrote: From: DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL doug...@gmail.com Subject: [Elecraft] three

Re: [Elecraft] three recordings - say what?

2010-01-07 Thread Guy Olinger K2AV
, artifacts and whatever else you want to call stuff that shouldn't be there all contributed to fatigue and the ear-brain's ability to discern signals. Wes  N7WS --- On Thu, 1/7/10, DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL doug...@gmail.com wrote: From: DOUGLAS ZWIEBEL doug...@gmail.com Subject: [Elecraft] three

[Elecraft] Three Recordings

2010-01-06 Thread Al Lorona
Delete this message now if you are sick and tired of hearing about noisy receivers. I have made three recordings of three different receivers tuned to 40 meter band noise, all with CW bandwidth of (nominally) 500 Hz centered near 550 Hz sidetone, all with the RF gain full up. One of the three

Re: [Elecraft] Three Recordings

2010-01-06 Thread Kok Chen
The spectra can be seen at http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio1.png http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio2.png http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio2.png (Estimated using cocoaModem's spectrum display with 1.5 second exponential averaging of each FFT bin. Please ignore the red

Re: [Elecraft] Three Recordings

2010-01-06 Thread Kok Chen
On Jan 6, 2010, at 9:08 PM, Kok Chen wrote: The spectra can be seen at http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio1.png http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio2.png http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio2.png Oops, the last one should be http://homepage.mac.com/chen/temp/audio3.png