Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-22 Thread Bill W4ZV
wayne burdick wrote: In that case, you now hold the record for copying an unamplified XG3 beacon :) The previous record was 1/4 mile or so. Wayne I hope you realize that 1000 microwatts (1 mW or 0 dBm) is very QRO in the world of weak signal beacons. Try 27 microwatts at a

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-22 Thread Bill K9YEQ
I may put one up in here in WI when I get my alternative other side of the house coax line installed. Might as well use the XG3 near 100% of the time. Line loss could be a detrimental factor, but I do have.75 heliax to help. 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- We need more beacons :)

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-22 Thread Bill K9YEQ
Wayne, You have now thrown the gauntlet! 73, Bill K9YEQ -Original Message- In that case, you now hold the record for copying an unamplified XG3 beacon :) The previous record was 1/4 mile or so. Wayne On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:46 PM, K7WIA wrote: per Google Earth, I am 18.42 miles

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-22 Thread Kevin Rock
I think stacked and phased 20 element Yagi-Udas will get me the title at 150 miles!! How much aluminum can one put into the sky? Kevin. KD5ONS On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 12:40:45 -0700, Bill K9YEQ k9...@live.com wrote: Wayne, You have now thrown the gauntlet! 73, Bill K9YEQ

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-22 Thread Kevin Rock
I know a guy in Minnesota with a ton of hard line on a very tall tower. I think his 6m antenna is attached part way up the side at about 1000 feet. I think you may want to convince him to add an XG3 beacon on that hardline during his off hours. Or raise the 6m loop up a bit and put it at

[Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Doug Phillips
After corresponding with Wayne a little today, I have my XG3 running a 0dBm into a Parr 6M stressed Moxon aimed South at about 45' agl, CN87xo, just east of Seattle. The frequency set on the XG3 is 50.025MHz, my K3/10 thinks it is a little lower but not by much. The XG3 is set to send 5

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Kevin Rock
Nothing heard yet. How far below 50.025 does your K3 hear it? Kevin. KD5ONS CN85jq On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:48:15 -0700, Doug Phillips w7...@msn.com wrote: After corresponding with Wayne a little today, I have my XG3 running a 0dBm into a Parr 6M stressed Moxon aimed South at about 45'

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Kevin Rock
I have scanned from 50.020 to 50.030 on both my 6 meter horizontal loop and on my G5RV. No signals at all except for one birdie. Kevin. KD5ONS CN85jq On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:48:15 -0700, Doug Phillips w7...@msn.com wrote: After corresponding with Wayne a little today, I have my XG3

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Hello Kevin, Trust that all is well with you. It crossed my mind that if your QTH is off the back of Doug's W7RDP/B Moxon and you are some distance apart, you might not hear his XG3 beacon because of the large f/b ratio that is typical of a Moxon. For example one of my wire 40m beams was a

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
Also, at 0 dBm power output, his XG3 may only be audible to fairly close stations unless there's a serious band opening. Wayne N6KR On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:21 PM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: Hello Kevin, Trust that all is well with you. It crossed my mind that if your QTH is off the

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Kevin Rock
I should be line of sight to Seattle. I know I am south of it and he is using a gain antenna. Do you think he will reach beyond the outskirts of Seattle? Kevin. On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 15:26:00 -0700, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: Also, at 0 dBm power output, his XG3 may

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
Do we have any experts at path-loss calculations (over typical Seattlian terrain) on the list? Wayne N6KR On Jun 21, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Kevin Rock wrote: I should be line of sight to Seattle. I know I am south of it and he is using a gain antenna. Do you think he will reach beyond the

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 3:21 PM To: Kevin Rock Cc: Elecraft Discussion List Subject: Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air Hello Kevin, Trust

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
No expert here, but a little scratch-pad geometry suggests that, assuming the Seattle station is at sea level (which Seattle is typically), Kevin's mountain would have to be at least 3500 feet ASL for just line of sight. Probably need to add 20% to that to clear the Fresnel zone. One the coast

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Kevin Rock
I am at one half the required altitude. Guess I'll wait for reports of Es and then try again. Now that the frequency is in memory and the loop is reattached things will go more quickly. Kevin. KD5ONS On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:01:40 -0700, Ron D'Eau Claire r...@cobi.biz wrote: No

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy
Not an expert Wayne, but earned my $ calculating path loss at HF up to microwave during point-to-pont, mobile and relay systems design back then using the classic 4/3 Earth Radius approach at VHF-Microwave. Unfortunately my relevant data is packed, but I understand that the path between Kevin

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread K7WIA
I am 18.42 miles NW of the beacon, per Google Earth. no sig detected yet...but as night falls and band noise drops we might have a chance. my location is north Seattle between I5 Hwy99 on 145th I am at 475 ft asl...7 el LFA at 55ft..K3 of course.. Ed K7WIA CN87TR -- View

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
Perhaps someone with a mobile 6-m rig will drive by. Wayne N6KR On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:38 PM, K7WIA wrote: I am 18.42 miles NW of the beacon, per Google Earth. no sig detected yet...but as night falls and band noise drops we might have a chance. my location is north Seattle between I5

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Kevin Rock
Dense stands of trees no longer exist on my mountain. Many, many square miles of timber have been clearcut in the last ten years. Now I can see for a very long way :) Kevin. On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 16:37:27 -0700, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy gm4...@btinternet.com wrote: Not an expert

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread n5ge
I'm watching this with great interest and anticipation from EM12jq! 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:48:15 -0700, Doug Phillips w7...@msn.com wrote: After corresponding with Wayne a little today, I have my XG3 running a

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
We need more beacons :) Wayne On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:51 PM, n...@n5ge.com wrote: I'm watching this with great interest and anticipation from EM12jq! 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:48:15 -0700, Doug Phillips

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread n5ge
Next year in the early spring or summer KC5DRE and I will be going through that part of the world after attending a family reunion at Tahoe. Maybe we will hear it on our way up to Washington State 73, Tom Amateur Radio Operator N5GE ARRL Lifetime Member QCWA Lifetime Member On Tue, 21 Jun

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Jack Chomley
Make a 100 milliwatt model XG3 :-) 73, Jack VK4JRC Sent from my iPad On 22/06/2011, at 9:57 AM, Wayne Burdick n...@elecraft.com wrote: We need more beacons :) Wayne On Jun 21, 2011, at 4:51 PM, n...@n5ge.com wrote: I'm watching this with great interest and anticipation from

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread K7WIA
I will post this on the PNWVHF reflector and see if we can get some east side guys to take a check. I would like to know just what the real Freq of the beacon is, Ill keep a eye out for it using spectran... Ed K7WIA CN87TR -- View this message in context:

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread K7WIA
I can detect the beacon using WSJT9, but I can not hear it in the speaker, The freg I have for zero beat in CW-REV is 50.02576. and I should be close, calibrated w/ sprectran w/WWV I see a 20 second line on the waterfall every 60 seconds and have been for the last 15 minutes. my K3 does not

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
How far are you from W7RDP? On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:10 PM, K7WIA wrote: I can detect the beacon using WSJT9, but I can not hear it in the speaker, The freg I have for zero beat in CW-REV is 50.02576. and I should be close, calibrated w/ sprectran w/WWV I see a 20 second line on the

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Al Gulseth
Wayne, After noting the mention of using WSJT to detect the beacon (and since you obviously would like to encourage the use of XG3s in beacon service) it occurred to me: what about QRSS mode? Assuming the hardware would handle the long on/TX times associated with QRSS, it seems to me that all

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread K7WIA
per Google Earth, I am 18.42 miles away.. this is not Kansas.seattle is a very hilly city. and from Goggle earth. the beacon is in a hole for me, and a lot of hills between it and me.. although I do have a clear horizon to the cascade Mtns to the east from my QTH and in the direction of the

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
I'll pass this onto the engineer who wrote the XG3 firmware (Paul Saffren). If we get enough demand we could add this. Thanks, Wayne N6KR On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:44 PM, Al Gulseth wrote: Wayne, After noting the mention of using WSJT to detect the beacon (and since you obviously would

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Wayne Burdick
In that case, you now hold the record for copying an unamplified XG3 beacon :) The previous record was 1/4 mile or so. Wayne On Jun 21, 2011, at 6:46 PM, K7WIA wrote: per Google Earth, I am 18.42 miles away.. this is not Kansas.seattle is a very hilly city. and from Goggle earth.

[Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Doug Phillips
OK guys, my K3/10 with the 5ppm TXCO reads the XG3 freq as 50.02496, very close to 50.025. I have the antenna pointed south, I am at 500' asl here 21 miles east of Seattle. I will have to dig into EMFRD to find the 10dB 6M amp, that I need to build for my KK7B 6M signal source anyway ;-) I

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Phil Hystad
According to QRZ, Beacon Doug, W7RDB, is on the Sammamish Plateau and not in Seattle. Seattle is due west of Doug unless his repeater is at some other location. Line of sight distance between my QTH and W7RDP is about 11.5 miles. Also, I am on a hill top and depending on where Doug is

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Brian Moran
: Tuesday, June 21, 2011 7:50 PM Subject: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air OK guys, my K3/10 with the 5ppm TXCO reads the XG3 freq as 50.02496, very close to 50.025.  I have the antenna pointed south, I am at 500' asl here 21 miles east of Seattle.  I will have to dig into EMFRD to find

Re: [Elecraft] XG3 6M beacon W7RDP/B on the air

2011-06-21 Thread Jessie Oberreuter
Alas, no copy from CN87uo, just north of the U-District :(. I have excellent shots S and W, and have a pretty good shot E, but not line-of-site. On Tue, 21 Jun 2011, Wayne Burdick wrote: In that case, you now hold the record for copying an unamplified XG3 beacon :) The previous