Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-21 Thread wa9fvp
I do agree that the K3 is very versatile with high and low cuts. I guess it’s just ones preference. I can stand 2.2KHz BW or even 2KHz but anything less then that to me is too narrow. It’s probably because of my interest in HF music and the fact that my brothers and me owned and operated a

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-20 Thread Bill W4ZV
Ed Muns, W0YK wrote: The K3 is entirely different. I've been operating SSB with a 1.5 kHz bandwidth for three years now and it is perfectly intelligible. On prior radios, though, I couldn't even get a 2.1 kHz filter to sound intelligible enough to be useful. I think the difference is

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-20 Thread Ed Muns
What's different about the K3 is its outstanding usability. With a single front panel control, HI CUT, any SSB bandwidth can be quickly dialed in, maintaining optimum intelligibility. With the few prior generation radios I tried narrow SSB filtering on, there were obscure menu settings and/or IF

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-20 Thread iain macdonnell - N6ML
Personally, I leave mine set at 1800 width, 1050 shift (the net effect of dialing the HI-cut down until the the width is 1800) all the time, and SSB sounds fine to me. I haven't touched those controls in SSB mode in a long time. I may be missing out on some benefit of fiddling with it. I generally

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-20 Thread Ed Muns
I fiddled with HI CUT a lot at first, to determine how narrow I could go and still maintain excellent intelligibility. Once I settled on 1500 Hz, I asked INRAD to make some 1500 Hz roofing filters (actually about 1600 Hz) for contest work. Like you, my SSB bandwidth (DSP: 1500 Hz, crystal

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-20 Thread Bill W4ZV
Ed Muns, W0YK wrote: What's different about the K3 is its outstanding usability. With a single front panel control, HI CUT, any SSB bandwidth can be quickly dialed in, maintaining optimum intelligibility. With the few prior generation radios I tried narrow SSB filtering on, there were

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-19 Thread wa9fvp
I owned 5 transceivers in my lifetime and I purchased a narrow (1.8) SSB filter for only one. It was a total wast of money. For me the filter was too narrow for voice communications and if a nearby station was too close the splatter and the narrow passband made the situation worse. When I

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-19 Thread Fred Atchley
Jack wrote: I owned 5 transceivers in my lifetime and I purchased a narrow (1.8) SSB filter for only one. It was a total wast of money. For me the filter was too narrow for voice communications and if a nearby station was too close the splatter and the narrow passband made the situation

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-19 Thread Ed Muns
The K3 is entirely different. I've been operating SSB with a 1.5 kHz bandwidth for three years now and it is perfectly intelligible. On prior radios, though, I couldn't even get a 2.1 kHz filter to sound intelligible enough to be useful. I think the difference is where the filter is located

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-19 Thread Don Wilhelm
Ed is entirely correct. Those who attempt to manipulate the shift and width to obtain an intelligible response on SSB are creating more trouble than it is worth. For maximum voice intelligibility, the low frequency corner of the filter must remain at 300 Hz (or slightly lower). The high

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-18 Thread Robby.VY2SS
Hi Chuck, I was faced with the same questions last winter when I added the second RX. There was some concern that diversity reception would suffer if the two recievers were not filtered exactly the same. Since I considered diversity reception to be a bit of a gimmick I went with just two

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-18 Thread Robby.VY2SS
Hi Chuck, I was faced with the same questions last winter when I added the second RX. There was some concern that diversity reception would suffer if the two recievers were not filtered exactly the same. Since I considered diversity reception to be a bit of a gimmick I went with just two

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-15 Thread callen1155
Re-post: sorry, problem with original:: Thanks for all the comments gentlemen. Regarding the RX antenna, I've been reading lots lately on the subject trying to figure what will work given my pathetic QTH space limitations and HOA restrictions. Quite a challenge indeed. In fact, more of a

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-15 Thread callen1155
Thanks for all the comments gentlemen. Regarding the RX antenna, I've been reading lots lately on the subject trying to figure what will work given my pathetic QTH space limitions and HOA restrictions. Quite a challenge indeed. In fact, more of a challenge than I'd like. I may have to be content

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-14 Thread Barry N1EU
callen1155 wrote: It seems the 250 or 200 may be too limited in application so given the above would you suggest the 400 Hz 8 pole or the matching 500 Hz 5 pole filters? I disagree. I have switched to full-time use of 200hz 5-pole filters in both receivers for cw, configured as 300hz

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-14 Thread nr4c
Chuck, I'm certainly no expert. But, I was facing the same delema, which filters to buy. I have my main rec filled with 6, 2.8, 1.8,400 and 200 filters. When I recently added the sub-rec, I only bought the 2.8 and 200. So far, I've been pleased. Good luck, you'll get a lot of comments on

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-14 Thread Bill W4ZV
callen1155 wrote: It seems the 250 or 200 may be too limited in application so given the above would you suggest the 400 Hz 8 pole or the matching 500 Hz 5 pole filters? Barry N1EU wrote: I disagree. I have switched to full-time use of 200hz 5-pole filters in both receivers for cw,

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-14 Thread Barry N1EU
Bill W4ZV wrote: Barry N1EU wrote: I disagree. I have switched to full-time use of 200hz 5-pole filters in both receivers for cw, configured as 300hz bandwidth in CONFIG menu. My width is typically set at 300hz. For contesting (running and SP) and 160M dx'ing, this works

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-14 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
I removed the 500hz filter pair that I used to also have installed. 1.8 KHz and 200 Hz may be fine if you don't do any RTTY. However, for either RTTY DX or contesting, you will want 500 Hz, 400 Hz or 250 Hz (370 Hz) filters. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 7/14/2011 9:29 AM, Barry N1EU wrote:

[Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-13 Thread callen1155
Sorry to do this to you guys but . I need some roofing filter advice:) Currently I only have the stock 2.7K filter and it has worked fine for casual rag chewing and some dx'ing. I've been operating my K3 for over a year and it seems I don't have any strong signals near me creating problems.

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-13 Thread Matt Zilmer
Chuck, I'd go with the 250 Hz 8-pole. It's fine for PSK31 as well as CW and keeps the in-band blocking to almost nothing. I have one in both receivers, and it's really surprising what one can do with it. 73, matt W6NIA On Wed, 13 Jul 2011 17:01:44 -0700 (PDT), you wrote: Sorry to do this to

Re: [Elecraft] need some roofing filter advice?

2011-07-13 Thread Jim Brown
On 7/13/2011 5:01 PM, callen1155 wrote: I need some roofing filter advice:) Since your interest is weak signal CW but not contesting and you don't have neighbors blowing away your radio, a roofing filter is not a particularly high priority for you. Instead, I would concentrate on the best RX