Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-12 Thread Bill Frantz
Please allow me to hijack this thread to ask about low power draw computers for use with the K3. Last field day I set up our club's digital station with a K3/10, SignaLink USB, and a MacBook Pro. The combination worked very well, but the MacBook Pro, connected through the Apple power adapter

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-12 Thread Richard Neese
well look at a netbook . or a small tablet pc and use a external battery and not a inverter. I have talked to people that use as netbook and a 12v 7Ah batt and spend almost 9 hours contesting. and on a 12v 17Ah deep cycle marine battery. you can go a day or 2 with a kx3 and a netbook.

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-12 Thread Matt Zilmer
You might try the various automotive multimedia PCs. All of them are 12V, and some have pretty decent power savings modes. Here's an example from Mini Box: http://www.mini-box.com/VoomPC-2-Car-PC-with-Intel-Atom-D2700DC-board?sc=8category=1543 That one can run Win7-32. 73, matt W6NIA On Mon,

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-12 Thread Richard Neese
You can also look at linux on a beaglebone black or a raspi. wich are low power arm pc.. -- R.Neese KB3VGW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-12 Thread David Sanders W4DES
You might like to use a Macbook Air. 12 hrs on a charge. 73, David W4DES K3 #7409 On Aug 12, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote: Please allow me to hijack this thread to ask about low power draw computers for use with the K3. Last field day I set up our club's

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-12 Thread Richard Neese
http://www.ewayco.com/ http://www.ewayco.com/51-embedded-systems-100-PC-mini-ITX-low-cost/11-tk-800mhz-low-cost-pc-embedded-system.html R.Neese KB3VGW __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-12 Thread Peter Wollan
Pignology has a wifi interface that makes an iPad feasible as a logging/controlling computer. There's a version of Rumlog for iPad, as well as Pignology's Hamlog. Android tablets reportedly work as well. Peter W0LLN On Mon, Aug 12, 2013 at 8:27 AM, Bill Frantz fra...@pwpconsult.com wrote:

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-12 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
I love the Via C7 Eden processor, but unless you have one around to test, I wouldn't buy one for this application without doing a lot of testing. Why? Floating Point performance is lousy, and I think that'll show with fldigi and other digital mode software. Look to the Intel Atom CPUs for

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-12 Thread David Cutter
Didn't Wayne have a smart phone solution a couple of months ago? Sorry, can't remember the detail. David G3UNA Pignology has a wifi interface that makes an iPad feasible as a logging/controlling computer. There's a version of Rumlog for iPad, as well as Pignology's Hamlog. Android tablets

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-12 Thread Rick Bates
I'm using an Atom for one of my IRLP nodes (7962, CentOS 6.4) and file server. It is mini-itx (small), doesn't use much power (~10 watts) and lowers power (slows, not off) when the need is low. It has a SSD so there are no moving parts, including no fan (I keep it in the air path of the

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-12 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
Clock speed is almost completely meaningless, even comparing processors from the same manufacturer. A good example is the Pentium 3 and Pentium 4. The P3 ran at half the clock speed (or less), but it took significantly fewer clocks to do an operation. The difference was so significant that

[Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Goldtr8 (KD8NNU)
Gents, I wish to get a new computer for the shack and want to have one that is RF quiet and has real serial ports. I am guessing that others have purchased some PC’s recently and would have some suggestions on some that are HAM friendly with a K3. I use a K3, KAT500, W2 and HRD for rig

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Richard Neese
99.8% of all new computers will no longer have serial ports USB is the standard now. there are ways to get around this get a usb to serial cable or look at edge port usb to multi serial port units they came in 2/4/8 port units. and then look at heavy duty usb cables with the good shielding

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Dale Putnam
...@gmail.com To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3 99.8% of all new computers will no longer have serial ports USB is the standard now. there are ways to get around this get a usb to serial cable or look at edge port usb

[Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Edward Dickinson III
Most of the motherboards I have looked at online recently do have a com port header on them, but no connector on the backplane. You can likely find a connector and cable at a computer parts and pieces store. A rotary tool with a diamond cutting blade can create an opening for mounting a

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Brian Alsop
One has to be careful with these headers. There apparently are two pinouts for them. One is used more often in EU and the other in the US. So make sure you read the documentation supplied with the motherboard to assure you connect the right type of cable. I got caught with this problem while

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Mike K2MK
Hi Don, It's been 5 years since I purchased a computer but the approach I followed then should still be relevant. If you buy a desktop style PC there will be a means for adding additional cards in slots. Then just buy a serial card on Amazon.com with the same bus nomenclature and you'll be

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Richard Neese
if you use a pci card serial its just like using a usb to serial or a edge port serial port replicator. its a add on. I use usb to serial cables with my devices and have no issue. __ Elecraft mailing list Home:

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Tom
Hi USB to serial port cables are not like they used to be when drivers were immature. Now a days, most will work fine.. I have keyspan adapters which have certified drivers but I also picked up a no name prolific cable that works fine in XP win 7 and 8. I would be more concerned about noise

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Bob
In addition to the Edge Ports I had favorable results with one of these: http://www.startech.com/Cards-Adapters/Serial-Cards-Adapters/8-Port-USB-to-RS232-Serial-DB9-Adapter-Hub~ICUSB2328

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Ian Kahn - Ham
- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bob Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 12:00 PM Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3 In addition to the Edge Ports I had favorable results

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Mike Harris
Nothing wrong with add on boards. I've fitted a two port to my latest Dell PC. I also use home made serial cables made from CAT-6 to the Jim Brown K9YC recipe. Similarly no rfi and not a ferrite in sight. Using one of the original Prolific adapters from Elecraft resulted in some noise on

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Nicklas Johnson
I built my own last PC, and though it isn't RF-quiet, it's pretty close, but partially by serendipity. The only thing noisy about it are the ethernet ports, and some big snap-on chokes have greatly mitigated that problem. The way I stumbled upon a fairly quiet PC has to do with some design

[Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Edward Dickinson III
The unfortunate aspect of RYO computers with just what you want and no bloatware is that they can cost 2x or more what a bloated, off-the-shelf computer costs. I know.I do my own. 73, Dick - KA5KKT __ Elecraft mailing list

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Lynn W. Taylor, WB6UUT
A seller can legally provide an OEM version if you buy it along with computer hardware -- so you might want to avoid buying the hardware and then getting Windows as an afterthought, or spreading your hardware purchases and software across several vendors. Of course, you could run Ubuntu or

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Bill
Buy a board and plug it in - it will give you two (2) serial ports (some more and some less). Make sure to get a board that will fit your particular machine. In my case, I built this machine and included a pair of serial ports and a Firewire port (tried a Flex radio). Have since removed the

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread MontyS
Many motherboards include a serial port jack that only needs the right plug and socket to provide a real serial port. So if you roll your own, this is an option. Otherwise, get a plug-in card as many have suggested. My radio computer is a refurbished HP with a 2 port PCI Express serial

Re: [Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Oliver Johns
Just to throw an alligator into the discussion, you might consider a Mac Mini. I use all Mac hardware with my K3 and other stuff, and it works well. Besides the usual OSX stuff, you get a BSD Unix box that will also run X-windows. And you can dual boot MS Windows if you have a copy, for

[Elecraft] new computer advice suggestions for using with a K3

2013-08-10 Thread Randy Cook
iMac running MacLoggerDX (from Dogpark Software). Use USB --Serial cable from Elecraft is my -humble- opinion. Not sure anyone still sells computers with serial ports. You can buy refurb'ed Macs directly on the Apple website, and save 10-20%. I have purchased several Macs as 'refurbs', but