Re: [Elecraft] regarding the green wire

2011-09-05 Thread ron
On 09/04/2011 08:07 PM, Mark Bayern wrote: I am aware of transformer supplies. I was referencing to switch-mode supplies (transformer less). I believe they have isolation between primary and secondary. Without a transformer? How are they getting any galvanic isolation? The transformer-less

Re: [Elecraft] regarding the green wire

2011-09-05 Thread Mark Bayern
whose output transformer is very small with few windings ... But that is not a transformer-less SMPS. It does have a transformer. I'm done with this discussion. Mark On Mon, Sep 5, 2011 at 10:05 AM, ron ronc...@verizon.net wrote: On 09/04/2011 08:07 PM, Mark Bayern wrote: I am aware of

Re: [Elecraft] regarding the green wire

2011-09-05 Thread Fred Jensen
On 9/5/2011 11:30 AM, Mark Bayern wrote: whose output transformer is very small with few windings ... But that is not a transformer-less SMPS. It does have a transformer. No magic here. Aircraft AC power used to be 400 Hz, and may still be. It was[is] pretty simple. At 400 Hz, you need a

[Elecraft] regarding the green wire

2011-09-04 Thread ron
I think we have missed the point. Any line powered device that has a conductive enclosure should have that enclosure bonded to the 'green wire'. It is a personnel safety issue. The KPA500 is line powered and has a metal enclosure. REPLY: Thus my point, the power supply for any radio is powered

Re: [Elecraft] regarding the green wire

2011-09-04 Thread Mark Bayern
I am aware of transformer supplies. I was referencing to switch-mode supplies (transformer less). I believe they have isolation between primary and secondary. Without a transformer? How are they getting any galvanic isolation? The transformer-less switched mode power supplies I'm familiar are