Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-05 Thread Larry Gauthier (K8UT)
Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 1:07 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies) I just completed my K3S build and initial configuration. Woohoo. I was tuning around the bands, and I noticed birdies *everywhere

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-05 Thread David Ahrendts
iginal Message- From: John Shadle > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 1:07 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka > Linksysproduces birdies) > > I just completed my K3S build and initial configuration. Woohoo. I was

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-05 Thread Clay Autery
If changing the cabling was the solution for your "birdies" then it would appear the issue was not with the switch hardware, but with poorly constructed cables. There are a LOT of CAT-5 and CAT-5e labels on cables out there that simply aren't. There's a list of specs involved, fairly lengthy one,

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-05 Thread John Shadle
et. > > -larry (K8UT) > -Original Message- From: John Shadle > Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 1:07 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka > Linksysproduces birdies) > > I just completed my K3S build a

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-05 Thread Jim Bolit
AM To: sha...@katzenfisch.com Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies) John, I’ll concur with Larry. I have several D-Link gigabit switches using CAT6 cable with no apparent noise, and I believe their “green” technolog

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-06 Thread Larry Gauthier (K8UT)
abit ethernet. -larry (K8UT) -Original Message- From: John Shadle Sent: Thursday, February 04, 2016 1:07 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies) I just completed my K3S build and initial configuration. Woohoo.

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-06 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
em. -larry (K8UT) -Original Message- From: John Shadle Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 10:14 AM To: David Ahrendts Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies) Thank, all. I may have to look into that. It may jus

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-06 Thread Kevin Stover
I am of the opinion that most if not all the issues associated with "noisy networks" is cheap switching power supplies that comes with the equipment. Cat5/6 cable in and of itself is pretty immune to noise pickup because of the twist in the conductors. That twist is there to knock down crosstal

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-06 Thread John Shadle
m: John Shadle > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 10:14 AM > To: David Ahrendts > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka > Linksysproduces birdies) > > Thank, all. I may have to look into that. It may just involve cha

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka > Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-06 Thread Al Gulseth
Bob, Just a quick question here. Are your power feeds Romex/NM, or is everything run in conduit? Would/could that make a difference (i.e. can electrical noise from a device such as a modem/router or its power supply be radiated via the home's AC wiring?) TNX/73, Al On Sat, 6 Feb 2016 12:03:3

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-06 Thread W Paul Mills
The answer for me was shielded CAT 5. Different switches just produced noise at different places. Was also greatly affected by devices plugged in. On 02/06/2016 01:11 PM, Kevin Stover wrote: > I am of the opinion that most if not all the issues associated with > "noisy networks" is cheap switching

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-06 Thread Clay Autery
one will solve your problem. > > -larry (K8UT) > -Original Message- From: John Shadle > Sent: Friday, February 05, 2016 10:14 AM > To: David Ahrendts > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka > Linksysprod

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-06 Thread Jim Brown
On Sat,2/6/2016 9:24 AM, Larry Gauthier (K8UT) wrote: I could not migrate to gigabit ethernet from 10 MBPS because the CAT5 cable I was using only had two available pairs. I'm confused by this statement. CAT5, 5e, and 6 are four pair cables. The pairs have a tight twist but each has a differe

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-07 Thread Edward R Cole
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Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-07 Thread Clay Autery
eral "spring cleaning" to reduce household > clutter and computer got added. > > So the shack now has two full-time computers with monitors which will > be handy when monitoring prop loggers and running special ham sw, > simultaneously. > > 73, Ed - KL7UW >

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-07 Thread Kevin Stover
I have seen some cheap "CAT5/6" jumper cables designed to hook the network device to the jack in the wall, that were purchased on E-Bay. Nuff said. I suspect they were made with stranded conductor wire which is NOT spec. They were just a little too flexible. Cable made by Anixter, Avaya, and B

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-07 Thread Edward R Cole
Bob, Could it be that fiber optics cable is the reason? Not much RFI from photons. Not everyone has access to fiber. Recently our commercial power was knocked off by a falling tree so only I had power (from my Honda Gen) and I noticed that the "RF world" was a whole lot quieter. One could

Re: [Elecraft] slightly OT -- acceptable network switch (aka Linksysproduces birdies)

2016-02-07 Thread Bob McGraw K4TAX
Yes, everything that radiates around your house and even outside your QTH for up to several miles will basically be additive to the noise floor. Take away the electricity from a couple of miles around and you'd be surprised how quite things become. As to fiber, I can't say our previous coppe