Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-27 Thread Vic K2VCO
Bill W5WVO wrote: I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set "dash/dot ratio" to a number less than or greater than 3.0 (where 3.0 is the default standard -- i.e., the dash is three times the length of the dot). After experimenting, I set mine to 3.7, which gave the transmitted CW a n

RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-27 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Well, gee, I can get those effects on my K3, even long telegraphic dashes for zeros! I just use my Bug to key the rig! Any time we turn over to machines or "technology" the chore of doing something, we are subservient to a fierce dictator of our own making. The machine will always do what it do

RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-27 Thread Bill Johnson
Ron, I have paralleled both an N3ZN and Begali signature to key my K2's. I bit expensive for keying SSB transmit, but I think very impressive if not overkill. Can't wait to do the same for the K3 on the order list. Maybe I'll use just one. And move the only the Begali to the K3?! A bit obsess

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-27 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:34:23 -0600, "Bill W5WVO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set "dash/dot ratio" to a >number less than or greater than 3.0 (where 3.0 is the default standard -- >i.e., the dash is three times the length of the dot). After exper

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-28 Thread David Yarnes
craft]" Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing? On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 13:34:23 -0600, "Bill W5WVO" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I got used to this feature on the TS-2000. You can set "dash/dot ratio" to a number less than o

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-28 Thread Bill W5WVO
anything but > "nice"! Why anyone would try to send anything but correctly > formed code characters is beyond me! > > Dave W7AQK > > - Original Message - > From: "Tom Childers, N5GE" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "[Elecraft]" > S

RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-28 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
th my "fist". We Hams are a disparate bunch. Let the good times roll... Ron AC7AC -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill W5WVO Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:19 AM To: [Elecraft] Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW featur

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-28 Thread Bob Cunnings
I'm a fan of GHD bugs (currently using a dual lever GN107WS), and recently noticed that they offer an electronic keyer with what they call "E-Bug" mode. I wasn't sure what to make of it but the ablility to record even straight key messages seemed interesting. I must confess that I don't mind heari

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-28 Thread David Yarnes
quot; Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 9:20 AM Subject: RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing? You'll find lots of support too, Bill. Just not so vocal here, I guess. A long time ago I suggested a "bug mode" in the Elecraft keyers. That would provide automatic dits like a bug but m

RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-28 Thread Joe Subich, W4TV
gs > Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2008 1:28 PM > To: [Elecraft] > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing? > > > I'm a fan of GHD bugs (currently using a dual lever GN107WS), > and recently noticed that they offer an electronic keyer with > what they call "E-B

RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-30 Thread Darwin, Keith
-Original Message- In my view, the so called "bug swing" is anything but "nice"! Why anyone would try to send anything but correctly formed code characters is beyond me! Dave W7AQK Imagine a world where nobody spoke into the mic. Instead, rigs had computer

RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-30 Thread Arie Kleingeld PA3A
CW-swing is related to music. Timing is so important. Ella Fitzgerald and Frank Sinatra are still famous for their timing. A 1-2-3-4 march has a steady beat. But have you ever heard the Saint Louis Blues March? Lots of examples... 73 Arie PA3A ___ Elec

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-30 Thread Tom Childers, N5GE
On Mon, 30 Jun 2008 15:02:38 +0200, "Arie Kleingeld PA3A" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >CW-swing is related to music. No it isn't. It's related a person with a poor fist that cannot control the length of the dashes to match the dots they are sending. It has nothing to do with music; It has to do

RE: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-06-30 Thread Ron D'Eau Claire
Well, Arni, this is a case where mileages *do* vary. I, for one, find a reasonable amount of "swing" improves copy and reduces fatigue. But, then, I've been listening to it from both commercial and amateur operators for over half a century now... An awful to of good traffic was handled long before

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-07-01 Thread Thom LaCosta
At 11:16 PM 06/30/08, Tom Childers, N5GE wrote: >CW-swing is related to music. No it isn't. It's related a person with a poor fist that cannot control the length of the dashes to match the dots they are sending. It has nothing to do with music; It has to do with reliable communication. I bel

Re: [Elecraft] [K3] CW feature: Swing?

2008-07-01 Thread David Yarnes
st me perhaps. When I used a "bug" I wanted others to think I was using a keyer, and with a keyer and paddle I want others to think I'm using a keyboard. Obviously that's not everyone's cup of tea, but I take great comfort in knowing that at least my K3's decode