On Jun 3, 2007, at 7:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote:
And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got
its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was
launched. And in 1981 - the whole PC world,
as we now know it was started. CP/M was also
on the runway - but big blue, killed it at the
gate.
On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:02 PM, Doug Person wrote:
Bill bought QDOS for $40,000 cash and some vague promises about
further deals. Many, many companies have looked back at their
dealings with Bill and realized they've been had. BigTime. The
dirty dealings with IBM are by far the worst thing
Bill Coleman wrote:
From the book Programmers at Work (c 1985), Gates talked at length
about some of his programming and design tasks. One that stays with me
is the bit about how Excel implements Cut, Copy, Paste. He came up with
some clever behavior to limit the amount of temporary
On Jul 13, 2007, at 9:14 PM, Gary Montalbine wrote:
Switch to OpenOffice. Its free and works.
I'm really hoping the next version of iWork includes a spreadsheet
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Quote: Not within a thousand years will man ever fly!
Gentlemen, not to be a list cop, but good grief. Eric closed this
thread over a month ago. Let it die, or take it to some Yahoo group.
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On 6/4/07, Don Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is the unfortunate result of too many folks
waiting too long for some new scrap of information
about their new K3 radios. Off topic posts and even
worse, people choosing up sides over Bill Gates.
This is very true. A solution might be for
And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got
its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was
launched. And in 1981 - the whole PC world,
as we now know it was started. CP/M was also
on the runway - but big blue, killed it at the
gate. Supposedly Gates bought the guts of DOS
or PC BASIC,
Fred (FL) wrote:
And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got
its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was
launched. And in 1981 - the whole PC world,
as we now know it was started. CP/M was also
on the runway - but big blue, killed it at the
gate. Supposedly Gates bought the
On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54 AM, Fred (FL) wrote:
And Bill Gates empire was launched, and IBM got
its first DOS contract from Gates - and IBM's PC was
launched.
The way I remember it, IBM decided they wanted a version of CP/M for
their new Intel 8086-based system and went to Digital Research.
That's the story I remember. Gates has been great at acquiring other peoples
projects and turning them into gold..I'm not sure he's ever actually written a
line of code!
Doug
W6JD
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From: Brian Lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Jun 3, 2007, at 4:54
When I worked for Dominion Semiconductor (Toshiba/IBM joint venture) one of
the IBM engineers related that same story to me. Basically Gates didn't have
anything but knew where to get it. Even as an 18 year old geek is was a
shrewd businessman.
Tom kf4yyd
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In a message dated 6/3/07 1:44:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
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Bill Gates of Microsoft assured IBM that Microsoft had a replacement
for CP/M-86 even though they really didn't. (Ah, vapor-ware has been
with us for a LONG time.) Microsoft then quickly purchased the
and then
execute a CALL to address 0004 and away you went. PCDOS 2.0 change all of
that.
John [K7SVV]
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That's the story I remember. Gates has been great at acquiring other peoples
projects
I know I must be missing something. I see this thread going on and on. I note
Eric hasn't jumped on it and ordered its termination, so it must have a
relationship to Elecraft, or at least Ham Radio, but I am too dumb to see it.
Is the K3 going to have MSDOS built in?
Did Bill Gates design the
Bill Gates has written lots of code. He is (or at least was) a truly
outstanding programmer. Years ago he was known to review code, find
something he didn't like and call up the programmer and give 'em hell.
MS Programmers have also been known to suddenly receive bonuses as stock
options
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, W2AGN wrote:
I know I must be missing something. I see this thread going on and on. I note
Eric hasn't jumped on it and ordered its termination, so it must have a
relationship to Elecraft, or at least Ham Radio, but I am too dumb to see it.
You need to open your horizons
Thom LaCosta wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, W2AGN wrote:
I know I must be missing something. I see this thread going on and on.
I note Eric hasn't jumped on it and ordered its termination, so it
must have a relationship to Elecraft, or at least Ham Radio, but I am
too dumb to see it.
You need
On Sun, 3 Jun 2007, W2AGN wrote:
on many email reflectors. I have determined that a topic will be quashed as
off-topic IF:
1. It expresses an opinion contrary to that of the list owner/moderator.
2. It criticizes a Scared Cow such as ARRL, etc.
3. It upsets someone enough that they send
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 3:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Spilling the HF beans .
Bill Gates has written lots of code. He is (or at least was) a truly
outstanding programmer. Years ago he was known to review code, find
something he didn't like and call up the programmer and give 'em
You mean beside their decision to integrate the browser with the
operating system Bad Bill, no cookie...
David Wilburn
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K4DGW
K2 #5982
Doug Person wrote:
Bill Gates has written lots of code. He is (or at least was) a truly
outstanding programmer. Years ago he was
I wasn't really complaining. I just am trying to figure out what is considered
off-topic and what is not. It appears to be a perplexing puzzle on many email
reflectors. I have determined that a topic will be quashed as off-topic IF:
...
No need to be so cynical.
My guess (and it is just a
Mark Bayern [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(06/03/2007 22:18)
No need to be so cynical.
My guess (and it is just a guess) is that Eric actually spends some
time away from the mail list, and he hasn't seen this thread yet.
I expect it will be put back on topic, or ended in a day or two.
Mark AD5SS
So how many people on this reflector haven't posted to this thread?
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So how many people on this reflector haven't posted to this thread?
Most. 30 posts 2000 members.
But at last: A hot, off-topic thread that I neither started nor threw
gasoline on. :-)
Craig
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On Mar 3, 2007, at 11:23 AM, John Young wrote:
If my memory is still working I recall Osbone made a very nice CP/M
computer in the dark ages. When the owner announced that the next
model would be IBM PC compatible, all orders for the CP/M system ended
and the company went broke.
In the
They could tell you .. but then they'd have to kill you :)
de w1rt/john
On 3/3/07, Fred (FL) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you give us a view of Elecraft's new HF
product(s) goals, and perhaps plans. For whatever the
reason - Elecraft was very vocal and open about
their work in new HF amps.
I hope Elecraft doesn't get too carried away with new
products ... to their detriment ... like Detroit. Detroit's
attitude guarnteed the German and Japanese auto
manufacturer's success. (I've owned 17 VW's)
One doesn't have to look very far to see companies
that have gone too far too fast
Fred (FL) wrote:
Without spilling the beans, or showing one's hand -
could Elecraft give us a better view of how new
products may happen in the future? Does Elecraft
have a goal of other transceivers, updated transceiver
products? Could (could) there be new near-term
HF product kits in the
On 3/3/07, Sam Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Fred (FL) wrote:
Without spilling the beans, or showing one's hand -
could Elecraft give us a better view of how new
products may happen in the future? Does Elecraft
have a goal of other transceivers, updated transceiver
products? Could
NO BEANS ...
Sounds like everyone is a happy camper. Forget
the new products. I'm about the same vintage as
Don. I recall my Dad, W2PZW, never got past his
treasured Halicrafters receiver, end fed Zep, and
plate modulator .. that's all the technology
he wanted. His best ham buddy
what fun would it be to go to DAYTON and the
QRP FDIM four days in May conference
and NOT see the latest new stuff from Elecraft.
opportunities such as Dayton ALWAYS have held the
initial introduction of BIG NEW PRODUCTS.
companies strive to get er done to show at Dayton, whether it be
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