Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing Posted

And with that, let's end this thread in the interest of keeping tempers down and relieving email overload for everyone. Also, please always keep discussions cordial, just as you would sitting across from friends at dinner. 73, Eric List moderator, when I'm awake.. *elecraft.com

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"ARRL Lab engineers are not active in contesting,..." Meh. Suggesting the ARRL Lab is ignorant about real world contesting is incredible. They are plenty smart, have their own stations, and do NOT live in a technological vacuum. If it was a problem, they would know it. "I

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On 2020-10-09 12:38 PM, Jim Brown wrote: > W4TV, a retired broadcast engineer, > traced the cause down to their method of doing ALC. I can't claim credit for that ... the information was originally identified by W8JI in Yaesu rigs as far back as the FT1000D and FT1000MP (and other Yaesu transceiv

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On 10/8/2020 10:43 PM, JR wrote: K9YC published a paper purporting to document and quantify transmitter noise figures - which belies the claim and ultimately validates what the ARRL Lab told me - namely neither rig is a problem. ARRL Lab engineers are not active in contesting, hence are unlike

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K9YC said ... You get what you pay for. Yaesu has been making very dirty radios -- clicks and splatter have been the rule. __ There is too much parochialism in ham radio. A couple of ops say this, failing to prove the claim, or substantiate

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On 10/6/2020 3:13 PM, Andy Durbin wrote: I paid for a Kenwood TS-590S. Actually I have two of them. I don't think this radio ever sold for more than about $1,600 and to the best of my recollection it's not high on anyone's dirty transmitters list (assuming a Chinese TCXO was not fitted). You

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Guess I should probably sell my couple year old K3S package eh? 73, Charlie k3ICH -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Tuesday, October 06, 2020 11:59 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing Posted On 10/2/2020 9:09

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On 10/2/2020 9:09 PM, Dave wrote: FTDX101D which can be purchased for under $3000 and includes the ATU and a Mic You get what you pay for. Yaesu has been making very dirty radios -- clicks and splatter have been the rule. Elecraft rigs have always been very clean on CW, less so on SSB, b

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Hi: I fully concur, when you look at the prices we paid for the K3/K3S and all those extras, the current price of the K4D seems like a good price to me. Sure hoping that my K4D will arrive before Xmas. Only time will tell, it will be almost a year since I purchased the K4D. Fingers are gettin

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Another way of looking at this is through the lens of history and inflation. In 1969 a set of Drake twins (R-4B, T-4XB, MS-4, AC-4) cost $1149.85 (in the 1969 Lafayette Radio catalog). That translates to $8136.60 in 2020. I daresay that the K4's features and performance are just a tad bit be

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Absolutely! My INITIAL order for K3s w/ P3, etc. was: *$4387.87 in 2016*. Add in *$570 for more filters* over the years (AM, FM, and HF) THEN in Dec 2019, I did a final "fill it up" order because I saw the EOL coming on things: *$2435.48 fo*r *SubRX** **    Gen Coverage and filters for SubRX**

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Absolutely! __ Clay Autery, KY5G (318) 518-1389 On 10/04/20 12:41, Tom Azlin W7SUA wrote: I agree Gary, I think the price corrected for inflation and performance has actually dropped compared to my fully loaded, dual loaded K3 nearly 10 years ago ( and sold keeping my sin

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I agree Gary, I think the price corrected for inflation and performance has actually dropped compared to my fully loaded, dual loaded K3 nearly 10 years ago ( and sold keeping my single receiver K3 which I upgraded as far as possible.) So I was comfortable with the price. I'm in the group 2

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Plus the K4 has a large, full-color, touchscreen display, Ethernet LAN, several USB ports, flexible antenna switching, etc. And it's all integrated in one box. Alan N1AL On 10/4/2020 9:31 AM, Gary J Ferdinand wrote: Well, let’s think about this one a bit. I for one was not disappointed wit

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Gary, To top that off…. It is ALL in one box! De Ben W4SC Sent from Mail for Windows 10 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.

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Well, let’s think about this one a bit. I for one was not disappointed with the pricing; I think they did a super job. I have a K4D on first-group order for $4700. The new price adds $300. I’m ok with that due to the extreme circumstances involved with getting parts, etc. But there’s anothe

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Save for the factory price and have money for accessories On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 18:48 Wayne Burdick wrote: > If they weren't before, then they aren't now, either...yet. Sorry for any > potential confusion. > > > > Wayne > > > > > > > On Oct 3, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Phil Genera wrote: > > > > > > O

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If they weren't before, then they aren't now, either...yet. Sorry for any potential confusion. Wayne > On Oct 3, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Phil Genera wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 3:52 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > Ian, > > Due to the pandemic and fires the kit version will be delayed longer than

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On Sat, Oct 3, 2020 at 3:52 PM Wayne Burdick wrote: > Ian, > > Due to the pandemic and fires the kit version will be delayed longer than > we'd hoped. The kit requires additional documentation and > manufacturing/shipping procedures, and unfortunately the personnel involved > (including me) have

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Wayne, I completely understand the challenges with getting the kit version ready. I don't have a prepaid order and am perfectly willing to wait (although, admittedly, with baited breath :-) ) for the Elecraft team to be able to get all the pieces and parts of the kits ready to go, safely and eff

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Ian, Due to the pandemic and fires the kit version will be delayed longer than we'd hoped. The kit requires additional documentation and manufacturing/shipping procedures, and unfortunately the personnel involved (including me) have been preoccupied. Sorry I can't put a date on it. If you choo

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Eric/Wayne, Now that final prices on the K4-line are posted, for factory-built models, can you provide a ballpark on what the price difference will be for the kit versions? I realize we're still probably several months out from the kits being ready, but it would be nice to know how to start s

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Mine was made in Japan but I heard others are made in China. John K7FD > On Oct 3, 2020, at 7:59 AM, Bill Steffey NY9H wrote: > > where did Yaesu make the new 101 > >> On 10/3/2020 10:08 AM, Macy monkeys wrote: >> I have the FTdx101D. It wasn't made by workers in America and I don't have

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where did Yaesu make the new 101 On 10/3/2020 10:08 AM, Macy monkeys wrote: I have the FTdx101D. It wasn't made by workers in America and I don't have a pipeline to the designers. Those two things alone might be considered worthy of the extra expense. But K4 performance will be proof of t

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IIRC the price for a base K4 was always predicted to be ~$4K.  I'm on the "no deposit" list (I think) so my dismay is the extended delivery time.  My 79th birthday is later this month and I had hope of treating myself.  But based on my experience of being the first kid on the block to have a K3S

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I have the FTdx101D. It wasn't made by workers in America and I don't have a pipeline to the designers. Those two things alone might be considered worthy of the extra expense. But K4 performance will be proof of the pudding. John K7FD > On Oct 2, 2020, at 9:09 PM, Dave wrote: > > I was disapp

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et [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Friday, October 02, 2020 10:10 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing Posted I was disappointed to see the pricing for the K4. I thought the base K4 would be in or around $3500 to $3700 and perhaps $500 o

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I was disappointed to see the pricing for the K4. I thought the base K4 would be in or around $3500 to $3700 and perhaps $500 or so to go to the K4D. As it turns out, another $900 for the K4D. These prices do not include the ATU ($400) or even a hand-held Mic. The total for the K4D that I was th

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Thank you. Madelyn sent me an e-mail yesterday explaining that as well. Thanks for the updates. Just like a kid on Xmas Eve - I can't wait. 73, Joe, KO8V > On Oct 2, 2020, at 11:14, Eric Swartz wrote: > > Hi Joe, > > You can add K4 options or change from one model of the radio to anoth

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Hi Joe, You can add K4 options or change from one model of the radio to another without changing your place in line :-) 73, Eric elecraft.com _..._ > On Oct 1, 2020, at 3:16 AM, Joe DeVincentis wrote: > > When I placed my order In group one, I was told I could add the ATU when my > order

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Assuming they have one to drop into your K4 it should not affect your ship date. Sent from my iPhone ...nr4c. bill > On Oct 1, 2020, at 6:17 AM, Joe DeVincentis wrote: > > When I placed my order In group one, I was told I could add the ATU when my > order came up for ship. What I failed t

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Kurt Pawlikowski wrote > Lou, > >     Forgive my ignorance: What's a K4/10-F? (I assume that "F" > indicates "Factory Assembled"). > >     k WB9FMC Correct. No kit available yet though 73, Lou W0FK -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/ ___

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a K4HD. I need the blocking performance for EU VHF contests. 73 Conrad PA5Y From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net on behalf of Jim Finan Sent: 01 October 2020 13:02 To: Kurt Pawlikowski ; Lou W0FK ; Elecraft list Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing Posted

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'10' = 10 Watts Jim Finan AB4AC Sent from my BlackBerry - the most secure mobile device   Original Message   From: ku...@pinrod.com Sent: October 1, 2020 6:33 AM To: starma...@hotmail.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K4 Pricing Posted Lou,  

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Am 01.10.20 um 12:31 schrieb Kurt Pawlikowski: Lou,     Forgive my ignorance: What's a K4/10-F? (I assume that "F" indicates "Factory Assembled").     k WB9FMC ... Based on the naming convention up to now I would say it is a factory assembled K4 with 10W... a QRP K4 ;-) Or it is a typo B

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Lou,     Forgive my ignorance: What's a K4/10-F? (I assume that "F" indicates "Factory Assembled").     k WB9FMC On 9/30/2020 10:18 PM, Lou W0FK wrote: For orders placed prior to 12/31/2020 K4-F - $4,099.95 K4D-F - $4,999.95 K4HD - TBD K4/10-F - $3,599.95 https://elecra

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When I placed my order In group one, I was told I could add the ATU when my order came up for ship. What I failed to ask is if adding the ATU at the time of ship will affect my place in line when I confirm my order and pay the difference. Does anyone have any insight on that? 73, Joe, KO8V

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Hi Lou, You are fast! An early copy slipped out on the web page while we were doing final edits tonight. :-). The final version is up now at https://elecraft.com/products/k4-transceiver (Same prices, minor corrections to descriptive text.) 73, Eric *elecraft.com * On Wed

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Eric Norris-2 wrote > Book 'em, Dano. ATU $399.99, same as K3s if memory serves. > > And here I was staying so calm... > > > 73 Eric WD6DBM Yes, look under the prices/ordering pull down arrow. 73, Lou W0FK -- Sent from: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/

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Book 'em, Dano. ATU $399.99, same as K3s if memory serves. And here I was staying so calm... 73 Eric WD6DBM On Wed, Sep 30, 2020, 8:18 PM Lou W0FK wrote: > For orders placed prior to 12/31/2020 > > K4-F - $4,099.95 > K4D-F - $4,999.95 > K4HD - TBD > K4/10-F - $3,599.95 > > https://elecraft.c