[EM] [Election-Methods] [english 94%] PR favoring racial minorities

2008-08-15 Thread Raphfrk Frank
n. AIM seemed to cause major corruption when posting from Linux and also when doing copy/paste. Raphfrk Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] [Election-Methods] Clarke taxes and group strategies

2008-08-15 Thread raphfrk
really large number will just be ignored and your ballot rescaled. This does break the optimal utility effect though. Raphfrk Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [EM] [Election-Methods] [english 94%] PR favoring racial minorities

2008-08-15 Thread raphfrk
offer to replace one of the current members at a lower 'price'. Also, if the legislature doesn't also decide the government, then there might not even be a fixed majority coalition. PS Anyone know a better free mail system that doesn't cause lots of ??? when I post to this gr

Re: [Election-Methods] Local representation

2008-07-17 Thread raphfrk
r the election bind the representatives to their announced policy).? Right, there can come a point where voter overload is a problem.? However, I think listing local candidates with the option for write ins should keep the burden low enough. Raphfrk Interesting site "what if anyone could modify the laws" www.wikocracy.com ? Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

Re: [Election-Methods] Matrix voting and cloneproof MMP questions

2008-07-16 Thread raphfrk
creased for candidates who were already elected or managed to reach a threshold in a previous election. In effect, each candidate would create his own district., so gerrymandering becomes less relevant. Raphfrk Interesting site "what if anyone could modify th

[Election-Methods] PR-STV elimination change

2008-07-08 Thread raphfrk
candidate.? Each round would just consist of surplus transferring and would likely require a few counts. A candidate who is the 2nd choice of many voters would pick up a large number of transfers which would help protect from elimination. Raphfrk Interesting site "wh

Re: [Election-Methods] Matrix voting and cloneproof MMP questions

2008-07-08 Thread raphfrk
work together and find a compromise. Also, budgets could be an issue.? One option would be to share tax income out proportionally. Each member of the legislature could decide what ministries their share is allocated to. Tax cuts/raises are an even bigger issue.? Raphfrk Int

[Election-Methods] Fwd: Another Lottery Method for the Record

2008-06-30 Thread raphfrk
nd the >elimination proceeds in a chain. I assume you mean that the first candidate eliminates a voter and then the eliminated voter eliminates the next one ? In a polarised 2-party setting, this would cause alternating eliminations ... which is probably a good thing. Raphfr

Re: [Election-Methods] Dopp: 2. “Requires centr alized vote counting procedures at the state-leve l"

2008-06-12 Thread raphfrk
ke R: 10 S: 15 B: 30 The elimination order is N->R->S In both cases, N, R and S are eliminated before Banotti. Thus it might look like contingent vote but is actually PR-STV (single seat). Raphfrk Interesting site "what if

Re: [Election-Methods] D(n)MAC

2008-05-26 Thread raphfrk
is system is that it reverts to random ballot for the 2 candidate case.? This may result in candidates who would be discouraged from running due to spoiler effects in plurality being encouraged to run due to 'civic duty'. Raphfrk Interesting s

Re: [Election-Methods] Fwd: [LWVTopics] IRV Voting

2008-05-11 Thread raphfrk
From: Kathy Dopp <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Comments below > -- Forwarded message -- > From:? <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Sat, May 10, 2008 at 7:22 AM > > Pathological scenarios > can be constructed for all voting systems, including whatever ones Kathy > may prefer to IRV. Diagrams

Re: [Election-Methods] method designchallenge+new method AMP

2008-05-10 Thread raphfrk
ved in the 'deal'. > Why not? just take suggestions from the candidates, parties, voters, etc.? > Then keep using the ones that work out best until none of them give any > additional improvement at the required consensus level. I am not sure if that would work.? The

Re: [Election-Methods] method design challenge + new method AMP

2008-05-08 Thread raphfrk
voting in their best interests. In Germany, motions of no confidence in the Chancellor (head of government) are handled by a secret ballot that requires an absolute majority of their legislature to pass. This is used to change the head of government, so I guess not all legislatures have public votes f

Re: [Election-Methods] [english 95%] Re: [english 94%] Re: method design challenge +new method AMP

2008-05-08 Thread raphfrk
aybe a reduced term. Optimal utility via trade requires that voters have something to trade, and fractions of a win probability seems to be quite a reasonable solution. Ofc, another problem is how to handle X:100, all the rest 0 voters.? Raphfrk Interesting site "w

Re: [Election-Methods] [english 98%] Re: [english 89%] Re: [english 95%] Re: [english 95%] Re: [english 94%]Re: method designchallenge+new method AMP

2008-05-05 Thread raphfrk
nable strategy to rate party candidates at 100% and the rest at zero in order to get your favourite party as many seats as possible. It would effectively become a PR system. Raphfrk AOL's new homepage has launched.

Re: [Election-Methods] [english 89%] Re: [english 95%] Re: [english 95%] Re: [english 94%]Re: method designchallenge+new method AMP

2008-05-04 Thread raphfrk
ain winner that they like better. Raphfrk Interesting site "what if anyone could modify the laws" www.wikocracy.com AOL's new homepage has launched. Take a tour at http://info.

Re: [Election-Methods] [english 95%] Re: [english 95%] Re: [english 94%] Re: method designchallenge+new method AMP

2008-05-04 Thread raphfrk
of candidate control. However, if you give the candidate control to the voters, then the majority can put up a majority of the candidates. Raphfrk Interesting site "what if anyone could modify the laws&q

Re: [Election-Methods] [english 95%] Re: [english 94%] Re: method design challenge+new method AMP

2008-05-04 Thread raphfrk
Jobst wrote: > Dear Raphfrk,? > it did not think through all you wrote yet, but one point troubles me:? > > Also, it is majority compliant. If a majority support a candidate first > choice (i.e. first choice and nominate him), then he cannot lose.? > If that is true, your

Re: [Election-Methods] [english 94%] Re: method design challenge +new method AMP

2008-05-03 Thread raphfrk
f your preference giving a rank of 1 to your least favourite, 2 to your next least favourite and so on You do not have to rank all the candidates and any you do not rank will be considered preferred to any ranked candidate Raphfrk Interesting site "what if anyone co

[Election-Methods] Approval based equal ranks in PR-STV and Meek's method

2008-05-02 Thread raphfrk
uota of supporters and 1 candidate left will be guaranteed to have that candidate above a quota as he will be the first choice of all those voters. Raphfrk Interesting site "what if anyone could modify the laws" www.wikocracy.com

[Election-Methods] Approval based equal ranks in PR-STV and Meek's method

2008-05-02 Thread raphfrk
sue if loops couldn't happen. Anyway, this post is to long (didn't intend the summary of the problem to be so long), will post another later dealing with the issue. Raphfrk Interesting site "what if anyone could modify the laws" www.wikocracy.com Election-Methods mailing list - see http://electorama.com/em for list info

[Election-Methods] Applying Yee diagrams to multi-seat election methods

2008-04-27 Thread raphfrk
n the single winner case, PR-STV is showing all the issues highlighted by Yee. However, it also shows up in the multi-winner case for certain inputs. Raphfrk Interesting site "what if anyone could modify the laws" ww

Re: [Election-Methods] Is rangevoting.org down? (plus some questions on converting Range to Approval)

2008-04-16 Thread raphfrk
strategy "approve your favourite of the top 2 and everyone you prefer to the expected winner" or "approve everyone who you rate higher than the expected utility of the election" In the above example, it is a perfect tie, but there might be a way to get it to converge. Also, i

[Election-Methods] apportionment and unequal voting strengths

2007-12-07 Thread raphfrk
heir vote totals change 100 = 10*10 110 = 10*11 120 = 10*12 130 = 10*13 140 = 10*14 150 = 10*15 Raphfrk Interesting site "what if anyone could modify the laws" www.wikocracy.com More new f

Re: [Election-Methods] elect the compromise

2007-09-12 Thread raphfrk
his may have applications here.? A betting market also achieves the above more directly.? Even without using the market itself to select the winner, trading on the market should make every voter indifferent to the outcome. Raphfrk Interesting site "w

Re: [Election-Methods] Elect the Compromise (correction)

2007-08-30 Thread raphfrk
Forest W Simmons wrote: > Below where I said "unlike Borda" I should have said "unlike D2MAC." > Neither the Borda solution nor the reverse plurality solution requires > anything other than the ordinal preferences. > > So the deterministic solutions that do not depend on some form of vote >

Re: [Election-Methods] Challenge: Elect the compromise when there'reonly 2 factions

2007-08-30 Thread raphfrk
From: Paul Kislanko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > If I understand the meaning of the original example correctly, the answer is > Asset voting. > Give every voter 100 points. By the conditions given, both the A and B > voters think C is 80% as good as their true favorite, so give 5/9 of their > points t

Re: [Election-Methods] Challenge: Elect the compromise when there're only 2 factions

2007-08-30 Thread raphfrk
Seems there's something seriously broken with copy/paste on AIM mail. From: Jobst Heitzig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Democratic decision systems avoid the necessity of fighting to prove > > strength by assuming strength from numbers and making the necessary > > accomodations. > > In my opinion

Re: [Election-Methods] Challenge: Elect the compromise

2007-08-29 Thread raphfrk
gt; share of the probability to C, both factions will gain. However, in practice, they won't.? Most candidates would prefer a 45% chance that they will win over a 100% chance that they won't.? Their own personal utlities will swamp any difference in fact

[Election-Methods] Proposing a Delegable Proxy poll: best

2007-08-03 Thread raphfrk
(Sorry if this double sends) > From: AllAbout Voting <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > >[Jan Kok] Let's try a DP poll! > >... > >This is the proposed poll topic and title: > >*** What is the best place to host the US-Iraq Conflict forum? > Jan, > > Can you give us more information about wha

[Election-Methods] [EM] Archives are now private ?

2007-07-24 Thread raphfrk
Was there any particular reason for this change ?? Perhaps a change of policy with respect to the discussions. Also, the link from electrorama wiki is now a broken link. Raphfrk Interesting site "what if anyone could modify the laws" www.wik