[EM] Russ, 12 March, '05, 0645 GMT

2005-03-11 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Russ says: IIRC, I said SFC could be well-defined if it were based on a clearly specified model of "true" voter preferences. But then it is only as good as that model. I comment: I posted an explanation of why, for my criteria to be well-defined, it doesn't matter if preference is well-defined, or

[EM] Markus, 12 Mfarch, '05, 0315 GMT

2005-03-11 Thread MIKE OSSIPOFF
Markus-- I'd said: I've used that term, but it has no role in defining my criteria, and so It gives you no justification for your claim that my criteria apply only to MinMax (whatever MinMax means). You say: : Well, you introduced your concept of "majority-rejected" candidates in 1995 to motivate M

[EM] Approval/Condorcet

2005-03-11 Thread Forest Simmons
I agree with Russ that Kevin's Approval Runoff method (eliminate lowest approval candidates until there is a CW) is a decent public proposal. It would be interesting to compare that method with what I call TACF, Total Approval Chain Filling: Proceeding from the highest approval candidate to the

[EM] Chain Climbing --> Chain Filling

2005-03-11 Thread Forest Simmons
Ted, Thanks for your thoughtful critique. I have been thinking along similar lines for different reasons, mainly a desire to achieve IDPA. Unfortunately, reverse TACC is not monotonic with respect to approval. If the winner moves up to the top approval slot without also becoming the CW, she w

Re: [EM] Re: What respected IRVists are saying about Condorcet, Approval, etc

2005-03-11 Thread Eric Gorr
James Green-Armytage wrote: When exactly did Lindsay post this, and under what subject heading? I'll reply on that list, when I find out. Looks like I was partially mistaken. Jim Lindsay does post to the CA IRV list (as does Sccott Menzies & Emily McPhail, to whom his was replying directly, whic

Re: [EM] Markus, 11 March, 0240 GMT

2005-03-11 Thread Markus Schulze
Dear Mike, you wrote (11 March 2005): > I'd asked: > > But which of my criteria use the term "majority-rejected"? > > You replied: > > Did I say that one of your criteria uses the term "majority- > rejected"? > > I reply: > > You said that my criteria apply only to MinMax because > "majorilty-reje