ights of person in software code, so
that we all can use and enjoy it however we want, with the
restriction that we cannot exclude others from the same use and
enjoyment. With the distinction between a right of property and a
right of person in mind, it is clear that FSF does not claim
own
Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
When I export the following table to csv with orgtbl-to-csv
from
emacs -q:
#+name: test-csv-export
| index | citation
|
|---+---|
| 1 | [cite:
Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
The @ character in an Org citation seems to block import to an
SQLite table.
Has anyone successfully imported an Org citation to an SQLite
table?
Could you please elaborate?
It appears I let this drop. My apologies.
p the agenda sane, I
don't add the file. Instead, I show buffer local tasks with
org-sidebar.
hth,
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ushed my change to the Worg repo, I got an error new
to me:
remote: Error submitting build job: A paid account is required to
submit builds
To git.sr.ht:~bzg/worg
c6d51f7c..c864fe68 master -> master
Let me know if there is anything to do on my side.
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authoring tool ...
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Execute ~org-export-filter-final-output-functions~.
Let me know if you have questions.
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implementation of /ad hoc/ solutions unviable, in my opinion.
FWIW, I agree with Juan Manuel here and would welcome a
straightforward way to insert material before the header.
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appreciate if you take some time to point out the non-standard
features in order to make Orgmode can recognize.
On Tue, Aug 8, 2023 at 10:06 PM Thomas S. Dye
wrote:
Aloha Zenny,
Zenny writes:
>
> However, the pdf did not inherit all the kaobook template
> features like:
>
>
for some of
its features. Org mode doesn't know about these, so you'll have
to figure out how Org mode can recognize and export them.
All the best,
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
AFAIK, most people assume that built-in backends are stable.
If they are not, it is a bug anyway. Or we should declare that
we do not
maintain them.
I thought "declare that we do not maintain them" meant "move
th
Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
IIRC, there wasn't much discussion. The current situation
doesn't seem ripe for documentation in the manual.
Here are some potential hurdles:
- there are likely too many built-in backends;
...
One way forward might
Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
Am I correct that language-specific header arguments are not
yet
covered
in the manual? I can't find any reference of "lexical" there.
Yes, I believe so. Language-specific header arguments for many
languages
ypically in the source code.
All the best,
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
You can try
M-x debug-on-variable-change org-fold-core-style
In case it's helpful, I set debug-on-variable-change as you
suggested but was bitten by the bug without triggering the
debugger.
Which likely means that somet
Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
For me, the bug bites intermittently. I often run an Emacs
instance for more than a week before I'm bitten, so it will
likely
be a long process to work through the packages loaded on top of
what Spacemacs loads to make a repro
Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
For me, the bug bites intermittently. I often run an Emacs
instance for more than a week before I'm bitten, so it will
likely
be a long process to work through the packages loaded on top of
what Spacemacs loads to ma
Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
But some third-party package might be.
May you try disabling various extra packages and see if the
problem persists?
If it helps, I get this bug using the Spacemacs Org mode layer
and
Emacs 27.
Sorry, but it does not hel
ht be.
May you try disabling various extra packages and see if the
problem persists?
If it helps, I get this bug using the Spacemacs Org mode layer and
Emacs 27.
All the best,
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r LuaLaTeX, something like this:
#+name: xelatex-biber
#+header: :results silent
#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(setq org-latex-pdf-process
'("xelatex -interaction nonstopmode -shell-escape
-output-directory %o %f"
"biber %b"
"xelatex -interaction nonstopmode -shell-escape
-output-directory %o %f"
"xelatex -interaction nonstopmode -shell-escape
-output-directory %o %f"))
#+end_src
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age like wasysym that defines these symbols. Check
the web for David Carlisle, Scott Pakin, and Alexander Holt's "The
Great, Big List of LaTeX Symbols" for more information.
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them inside a headline?
The upper part of a buffer is very important to me, and I don't
like to see those lines there...
I put my configuration under a heading at the bottom of the file.
hth,
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Aloha Lawrence,
Galaxy Being writes:
Is there a generic starter template for writing an ob- package,
some sort of example code?
⨽
Lawrence Bottorff
Grand Marais, MN, USA
borg...@gmail.com
Yes, see org-contrib/babel/ob-template.el on Worg.
All the best,
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https
+
Version 3.24.24, cairo version 1.16.0)
of 2021-03-28, modified by Debian
Package: Org mode version 9.4 (9.4-elpa @
/home/bruno/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.4/)
I often use the .tex file to track down compilation issues. I
don't want Org to delete it.
All the best,
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offset
unambiguously.
That is different use case Max.
For this use case I am in full agreement, that is what is used
anyway
worldwide.
What Ihor proposed is time stamp like:
2023-02-14 Tue 12:00:00 +0800 @UTC
Though I just say when we put "UTC" that means normally "UTC
Maxima to LaTeX.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/27/world/europe/russia-ukraine-time-zones.html?smid=url-share
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wish to provide best possible
references
for the sake of people using Org mode.
So let me gently try explaining it with different words.
At this point, we appear to be talking past one another.
All the best,
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ndard time
and daylight saving time, which refer to time zones.
This distinction between absolute time (solar time) and space/time
(time zone) is fundamental. Confusing them leads to no good.
hth,
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Aloha Max,
Max Nikulin writes:
On 23/01/2023 23:04, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
* Kinds of event
- No-host event :: An event that takes place at an absolute
time. Participants
must know their local timezone offset from UTC. Example
[2023-01-23
06:00@UTC].
- Situated event :: An event that takes
learning about time zones etc. in this
discussion thread!
Then I can recommend Carlo Rovelli's The Order of Time.
All the best,
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Aloha all,
The @ character in an Org citation seems to block import to an
SQLite table.
Has anyone successfully imported an Org citation to an SQLite
table?
All the best,
Tom
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Aloha Ihor,
Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
I understand above that it is easier understandable when
reading
[2023-01-22 Sun 08:29@+1100] as it is assumed by poster (I
guess
Max)
that user will understand that there is +11 hours ahead.
Yes, the offset here is
Aloha Max,
Max Nikulin writes:
On 23/01/2023 23:04, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
I understand above that it is easier understandable when
reading
[2023-01-22 Sun 08:29@+1100] as it is assumed by poster (I
guess Max)
that user will understand that there is +11 hours ahead.
Yes, the offset here is
Aloha Jean Louis,
Jean Louis writes:
* Thomas S. Dye [2023-01-22 20:36]:
> After all, for a person in Berlin [2023-01-22 Sun
> 08:29@+1100] may
> tell more than [2023-01-22 Sun 08:29@Australia/Sydney].
I'm not sure to follow this. IIUC, the timestamp with offset
refers to
to
timestamps in
the past and to future timestamps when the person who created
appointment
respects remote participants, so decided to rule out DST and fix
absolute time.
Agreed, offset relative to UTC is absolute time.
On 22/01/2023 13:17, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
UTC is not a timezone. I
Aloha Max,
Max Nikulin writes:
On 21/01/2023 22:55, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
Aloha Max,
Max Nikulin writes:
On 21/01/2023 07:37, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
1) Occurrence, where the timestamp includes UTC;
2) Event relative to user, where the timestamp does not
include UTC
or a
time zone; and 3
ach user,
so it is possible to synchronize local timestamps around the
globe.
All the best,
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Aloha Jean Louis,
Jean Louis writes:
* Thomas S. Dye [2023-01-19 19:23]:
Only occurrences require absolute time, UTC. Events do not.
They follow
the user's space/time.
> > > Org in this state can't handle such things.
> >
> > Org can do the useful thi
Aloha Jean Louis,
Jean Louis writes:
* Thomas S. Dye [2023-01-19 19:23]:
Only occurrences require absolute time, UTC. Events do not.
They
follow the user's space/time.
I understand you got your context specific terminology, from the
mentioned book, where you are making philosophi
Aloha Max,
Max Nikulin writes:
On 21/01/2023 07:37, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
1) Occurrence, where the timestamp includes UTC;
2) Event relative to user, where the timestamp does not
include UTC or a
time zone; and 3)
Event not relative to user, where the timestamp includes the
relevant time
Aloha Tim,
Tim Cross writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
Aloha Max,
Max Nikulin writes:
On 20/01/2023 23:09, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
Max Nikulin writes:
Now, if Amsterdam's timezone arbitrarily changes its relation
to UTC before the
conference takes place,
then everyone who
Aloha Max,
Max Nikulin writes:
On 20/01/2023 23:09, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
Max Nikulin writes:
Now, if Amsterdam's timezone
arbitrarily changes its relation to UTC before the conference
takes place,
then everyone who participates in the conference must notice
this (or miss the
start o
unaware of the arbitrary change in Amsterdam timezone.
hth,
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o a
fictitious space/time.
hth,
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Aloha Tim,
Tim Cross writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
Aloha Tim,
Tim Cross writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
Aloha Tim,
UTC is a time zone - just one where offset is +
UTC is absolute time. It lacks the spatial component that
defines a time zone.
Aloha Tim,
Tim Cross writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
Aloha Tim,
UTC is a time zone - just one where offset is +
UTC is absolute time. It lacks the spatial component that
defines a time zone.
Really? I would have thought the prime meridian was the spacial
component
Aloha Tim,
UTC is a time zone - just one where offset is +
UTC is absolute time. It lacks the spatial component that defines
a time zone.
hth,
Tom
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Aloha Jean Louis,
Jean Louis writes:
* Thomas S. Dye [2023-01-19 09:37]:
Meetings are occurrences, which require absolute time, which
has no
timezones. Org should record occurrences with timestamps in
UTC,
possibly translating from the user's local time.
User in Grece needs appoin
e and your time zone,
and
problem solved.
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quot; would work, though it might
be improved.
I enjoy having terms for these two kinds of happenings and I'm
hopeful you'll find them useful, too.
All the best,
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and the few new packages I use were easy to discover by
browsing.
hth,
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h...@heagren.com writes:
First question: what do people think of this, do people support
this as
an idea?
I would use this feature. My stack typically includes headers, a
name, and a caption. It would be nice to fold them all out of
sight.
All the best,
Tom
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https
-fold
framework to overcome
performance limitation of overlays (the latter has been recently
addressed in
Emacs though).
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
Thanks Ihor. I don't actually use Haskell. Earlier this year
I
attempted to complete the Org Babel language documents on Worg,
but couldn't get the obligatory "hello world" code block to
behave
in
enced Haskell programmers and was hoping someone had a
solution to the Prelude> problem. I'm not sure when I might get
back to this.
All the best,
Tom
Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
I'm struggling to write a minimal ob-doc-haskell.org for Worg.
I ins
nil nil contents))
((and (org-export-derived-backend-p backend 'latex)
(string-match
"\\(\\`.*?\\)\\(?:hfill{}\\)?textsc{.*?clearpage.*?}\\(.*\n\\)"
(downcase contents)))
(replace-match "clearpage\n\\1\\2" nil nil contents
#+end_src
Hope this helps. If not, sorry for the noise.
All the best,
Tom
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Max Nikulin writes:
On 09/07/2022 01:49, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
Juan Manuel Macías writes:
TL;DR: A list of use cases where using LuaTeX is more
advantageous than
using pdfTeX
I forgot to ask earlier. Is Lua support in Babel potentially
useful?
The current implementation doesn't
Juan Manuel Macías writes:
TL;DR: A list of use cases where using LuaTeX is more
advantageous than
using pdfTeX
I forgot to ask earlier. Is Lua support in Babel potentially
useful? The current implementation doesn't work too well.
All the best,
Tom
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Juan Manuel Macías writes:
TL;DR: A list of use cases where using LuaTeX is more
advantageous than
using pdfTeX
Interesting. Thanks!
All the best,
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Ihor Radchenko writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
Nevertheless, it is good to know that I'm free to give up
freedoms
to contribute to Org mode development. @Ihor, will Paypal work
for you?
Yep. Currently, Paypal is the only option (apart from direct
bank
transfers) th
I'm hoping this is an odd situation that can be remedied
reasonably in favor of my convenience, rather than a tyrannical
situation that defies reason.
Nevertheless, it is good to know that I'm free to give up freedoms
to contribute to Org mode development. @Ihor, will Paypal wor
ted to free
software.
Yes, your Chinese bank charges exorbitant fees for cashing US
checks. That won't work.
It seems odd that our embrace of software freedom should keep us
from collaborating as fully as we'd like.
Keep up the good work in any case!
All the best,
Tom
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you tried :with and :height header arguments?
> I have a table from which I take some values.
It would be more helpful if you provided a completely
reproducible
example that others can also run.
Best,
Ihor
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yes :results file :exports
results
#+property: header-args:latex+ :imagemagick yes :iminoptions
-density 600 :imoutoptions -geometry 1200
If you have ImageMagick installed, maybe try this?
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Aloha Max,
Max Nikulin writes:
On 08/05/2022 07:30, Juan Manuel Macías wrote:
Thomas S. Dye writes:
Is there a way to add an arbitrary LaTeX command between
\begin{figure} ... \end{figure} during LaTeX export? I want
to end up
with the following snippet, but can't figure out how to
Aloha Juan Manuel,
Juan Manuel Macías writes:
Hi, Thomas,
Thomas S. Dye writes:
Is there a way to add an arbitrary LaTeX command between
\begin{figure} ... \end{figure} during LaTeX export? I want to
end up
with the following snippet, but can't figure out how to sl
th=.9\linewidth]{hilbertcurves.pdf}
\caption[Hilbert curves]{\label{fig:orgparagraph1} Hilbert curves
of various degrees \emph{n}.}
\setfloatalignment{b}
\end{figure}
All the best,
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#x27;t
worked through a LaTeX export project with it. My first, and so
far only, project with org-cite was for a simple html-based
presentation using CSL, and I was pleased with the results and
relative ease of setup.
All the best,
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7; based emails sent through to the
mailing list itself?
Or are they done directly through git pushes?
You contribute with git pushes.
Thanks for our interest in Worg.
All the best,
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a go at it over the coming
weeks.
No, I haven't worked on a derived style.
All the best,
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return elem
end
end
#+end_src
Neat! Converting Word documents is no fun at all.
BTW, Babel support for Lua isn't very good AFAICT. I poked around
ob-lua.el recently and concluded that one problem is that the Lua
interpreter prints pointers for some data types instead of a
human-readable form that might be parsed.
All the best,
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el:
(setq-local comint-prompt-regexp
(concat haskell-prompt-regexp "\\|^λ?>
"
But I couldn't find a way to modify haskell-prompt-regexp without
changing the source.
Advice welcome.
Al
ch of the different
functionalities provided by ob-shell.el have a similar
implementation. The expectation is that this would benefit
maintenance.
* Footnotes
[fn:1]
https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/ob-doc-shell.html#orgfa6b7c5
[fn:2] M-up is bound to =org-metaup-hook= and
=ob-core:org-babel-load-in-session= by default.
[fn:3] It's not clear to me if there's a technical definition
for an
Emacs package.
[fn:4] I may extend my personal notes into a document detailing
the
Org API. http://excalamus.com/2021-11-03-org_babel.html
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work to sign the FSF disclaimer in
order to work on ob-shell.el. I might just implement something
on the side and use that to inform any future contributions.
I was looking at the Worg page when I wrote "Wow" :)
Many thanks for this contribution.
All the best,
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ed correctly, sorry about that if
not. It's late here and I wanted to show progress. I'll worry
about those kinds of details later. :)
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Worg when you're ready.
Thanks for your help with ob-doc-shell.org.
All the best,
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Aloha Nicolas,
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
IIUC, the map in 'org-cite-biblatex-styles' is correct for
biblatex-chicago.
biblatex-chicago introduces new LaTeX commands. Does that mean
those can
be ignored?
If the goal is to support the styles
Aloha Nicolas,
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
Hmm, I can't find 'org-cite-biblatex-styles' in main.
Do you mean the map represented by the nested pcase in
org-cite-biblatex-export-citation function, or something else?
You need to update main.
Aloha Nicolas,
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
Hello,
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
Nicolas Goaziou writes:
Another possibility it to write, e.g.,
"oc-biblatex-chicago.el" and
define a new ‘biblatex-chicago’ export processor, re-using
most
functions from "oc-biblatex.el&qu
re, of course,
welcome.
All the best,
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vious page/entry, it
is
collected that entry only.
Nice work!
All the best,
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e assumption that I'll eventually get that written
disclaimer.
> Hope that helps.
It does, thank you. It's nice to know that my words aren't going
into the void. :)
Good news.
Contributions to Worg aren't similarly restricted. Feel free to
push material there in
Aloha all,
Timothy writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
I checked this morning and I still get a 404 error when I
follow the Worg link
in section 16.12 of the Org mode manual at orgmode.org.
(sigh) I already fixed a 2nd issue, it looks like there's at
least a
3rd...
I st
d-timer in over his head, Spacemacs has a simple option to
enable Emacs key bindings. You don't need to use the modal bindings.
hth,
Tom
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o push directly to Worg.
Let me know if you have questions.
All the best,
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them as an attachment. Is that fine?
Thanks,
Matt
Unfortunately, there is no ob-doc-shell.org at
worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/.
There is an ob-doc-template.org in case you'd like to contribute
ob-doc-shell.org :)
All the best,
Tom
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Timothy writes:
"Thomas S. Dye" writes:
I checked this morning and I still get a 404 error when I
follow the Worg link
in section 16.12 of the Org mode manual at orgmode.org.
(sigh) I already fixed a 2nd issue, it looks like there's at
least a
3rd...
FYI, the long l
ion to
worg/library-of-babel.org?
All the best,
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Aloha Max,
Max Nikulin writes:
On 12/11/2021 00:24, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
The original problem is likely due to the default header
arguments in
ob-org.el, which are unusual.
It is great that the problem is solved. I do not think however
that something
inside ob-org.el may affect
Aloha Max,
Max Nikulin writes:
On 11/11/2021 04:24, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
Max Nikulin writes:
On 08/11/2021 05:46, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
to fail, but AFAICT ob-doc-org.org doesn't have this
affliction--it exports
locally.
Have you tried to export it from "emacs -Q -L
/path/t
Aloha Max,
Max Nikulin writes:
On 08/11/2021 05:46, Thomas S. Dye wrote:
I pushed a new file, ob-doc-org.org, to Worg earlier today, but
the link
in
https://orgmode.org/worg/org-contrib/babel/languages/index.html
gives a 404
error. I usually see this when the Org file has a bad link
have this affliction--it exports locally.
I've likely made some other error, but I don't have clue what it
might be.
I don't know how to debug this. Can someone help, please?
All the best,
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e. As a bonus, it is easier to
maintain across
different org files.
The Worg entry should be fixed now. Thanks for the report.
All the best,
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LaTeX/pdf with syntax highlighting
after converting from orgmode to LaTeX/PDF.
Actual behaviour:
+ conf code block completely disappears in PDF after converting
from orgmode to LaTeX/PDF.
Sincerely,
Marc van der Sluys.
Does org-latex-minted-langs help?
All the best,
Tom
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utility! Thanks for sharing.
All the best,
Tom
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Aloha Rudolf, Joost, and Tim,
Thanks very much. This helps a lot.
All the best,
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Aloha all,
The attached patch changes a 404 link to the working link used on
Worg.
All the best,
Tom
>From 31f340d80fdd01833e770d12806f0df165b88365 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
From: "Thomas S. Dye"
Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2021 07:09:49 -1000
Subject: [PATCH] doc/org-manual.org: Fix li
acs also helped eliminate many of my rookie errors
configuring Emacs.
All the best,
Tom
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