Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-24 Thread Olaf Dietsche
Eric S Fraga writes: > Olaf Dietsche writes: > >> Tommy Kelly writes: >> OK, that might be what I need then. I thought clock tables grouped things by headings, not by tags. I'll have a look at the manual. > > [...] > >> #+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope file :tags "health" >> Clo

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-24 Thread Eric S Fraga
Olaf Dietsche writes: > Tommy Kelly writes: > >>> OK, that might be what I need then. I thought clock tables grouped >>> things by headings, not by tags. I'll have a look at the manual. [...] > #+BEGIN: clocktable :maxlevel 2 :scope file :tags "health" > Clock summary at [2011-11-08 Di 09:57]

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Bernt Hansen
Tommy Kelly writes: >> ... it depends on how often you require this weekly report... > > Ermm, weekly :-) > Yes :) but if it's only for the next 3 weeks it's probably not worth the coding effort. If it's weekly for the indefinite future it might be. -Bernt

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Bernt Hansen
Tommy Kelly writes: >> ... it depends on how often you require this weekly report... > > Ermm, weekly :-) > >> It should be possible to write code that walks your agenda, visits the >> tasks, and copies and pastes the details to a temporary org buffer/file >> just for your chronological report. >

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Tommy Kelly
> Probably, :indent was perceived by the code as nil, but at least > it did not swallow the :tags key. It wasn't. I hadn't realized about the need for a value to the property, but if it's omitted then it looks like :indent's value is perceived as true, not nil (which is why I got on so long no

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik wrote: > On Nov 8, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Sebastien Vauban wrote: > >> Hi Carsten, >> >> Carsten Dominik wrote: >>> On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Tommy Kelly wrote: >>> > I haven't tried this myself, just looking at the manual. But playing > around, it seems you ne

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 8, 2011, at 11:05 AM, Sebastien Vauban wrote: > Hi Carsten, > > Carsten Dominik wrote: >> On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Tommy Kelly wrote: >> I haven't tried this myself, just looking at the manual. But playing around, it seems you need double quotes around your tags match. >>>

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Sebastien Vauban
Hi Carsten, Carsten Dominik wrote: > On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Tommy Kelly wrote: > >>> I haven't tried this myself, just looking at the manual. But playing >>> around, it seems you need double quotes around your tags match. >> >> Ah OK, that works. But it turns out there was a second problem

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:55 AM, Tommy Kelly wrote: >> I haven't tried this myself, just looking at the manual. But playing >> around, it seems you need double quotes around your tags match. > > Ah OK, that works. But it turns out there was a second problem and it > may be a bug. It looks like any o

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Tommy Kelly
> I haven't tried this myself, just looking at the manual. But playing > around, it seems you need double quotes around your tags match. Ah OK, that works. But it turns out there was a second problem and it may be a bug. It looks like any of the clocktable options after :indent get ignored. So thi

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 8, 2011, at 10:04 AM, Olaf Dietsche wrote: > Tommy Kelly writes: > >>> OK, that might be what I need then. I thought clock tables grouped >>> things by headings, not by tags. I'll have a look at the manual. >> >> I'm trying the tagging thing within clock tables, but I can't get it >> wo

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Olaf Dietsche
Tommy Kelly writes: >> OK, that might be what I need then. I thought clock tables grouped >> things by headings, not by tags. I'll have a look at the manual. > > I'm trying the tagging thing within clock tables, but I can't get it > working at all. I've attached a tag to a single headline, and ch

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Carsten Dominik
On Nov 8, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Tommy Kelly wrote: >> ... it depends on how often you require this weekly report... > > Ermm, weekly :-) > >> It should be possible to write code that walks your agenda, visits the >> tasks, and copies and pastes the details to a temporary org buffer/file >> just for

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-08 Thread Tommy Kelly
> ... it depends on how often you require this weekly report... Ermm, weekly :-) > It should be possible to write code that walks your agenda, visits the > tasks, and copies and pastes the details to a temporary org buffer/file > just for your chronological report. Absolutely. But as I've been t

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Bernt Hansen
Tommy Kelly writes: > Bernt wrote: >> For item 1) can you use the display of inactive timestamps to get part >> of the information you want in the agenda and then visit the items with >> either follow mode (F) or manually visit each item with SPC to get more >> detail? > > Thanks. That's pretty m

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Tommy Kelly
> OK, that might be what I need then. I thought clock tables grouped > things by headings, not by tags. I'll have a look at the manual. I'm trying the tagging thing within clock tables, but I can't get it working at all. I've attached a tag to a single headline, and checked that I've got that righ

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Tommy Kelly
Bernt wrote: > For item 1) can you use the display of inactive timestamps to get part > of the information you want in the agenda and then visit the items with > either follow mode (F) or manually visit each item with SPC to get more > detail? Thanks. That's pretty much exactly my workaround now.

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Tommy Kelly
Olaf wrote: > Maybe I misunderstand what you want to accomplish, but if you put your > journal into a separate file (e.g. journal.org), ... That's pretty much what I want. But if I do that I then have trouble with getting sensible clock tables. For example, suppose I had: *** Headline about some

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Olaf Dietsche
Tommy Kelly writes: > I'm trying to get org-mode to provide me with two things, but haven't > found a way to do it. > > 1. First, I want to be able to use it like a daily engineering or > science journal, logging notes as they occur, in pretty much linear > fashion chronologically. Or, more to th

Re: [O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Bernt Hansen
Tommy Kelly writes: > I'm trying to get org-mode to provide me with two things, but haven't > found a way to do it. > > 1. First, I want to be able to use it like a daily engineering or > science journal, logging notes as they occur, in pretty much linear > fashion chronologically. Or, more to th

[O] Journal versus clock tables: Opposing requirements?

2011-11-07 Thread Tommy Kelly
I'm trying to get org-mode to provide me with two things, but haven't found a way to do it. 1. First, I want to be able to use it like a daily engineering or science journal, logging notes as they occur, in pretty much linear fashion chronologically. Or, more to the point, I want to be able to rep