Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-07-23 Thread Karl Voit
* Alexis wrote: > > Hi all, Hi! > What would be useful would be an 'official', fleshed-out spec for > org-contacts data, which handles a greater range of contact-related > info. At the moment, for example, my org-contacts file makes use of the > properties: > > #+PROPERTY: LANDLINE > #+PROPERTY:

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-06-04 Thread Daimrod
Michael Strey writes: > Hi Daimrod, > > On 2014-05-29, Daimrod wrote: > >> Hmm, I kinda like this. It seems a bit verbose but it's better than >> having multiple values per properties (IMHO). >> >> Though, if we adopt this scheme, we would need to add some helper >> bindings/functions so that we

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-06-03 Thread Michael Strey
Hi Daimrod, On 2014-05-29, Daimrod wrote: > Hmm, I kinda like this. It seems a bit verbose but it's better than > having multiple values per properties (IMHO). > > Though, if we adopt this scheme, we would need to add some helper > bindings/functions so that we don't have to fill this by hands.

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-28 Thread Daimrod
Michael Strey writes: Hi Michael, > Reading http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html#Node_Properties > I just realised that my clumsy property keys are against the rules since > they are containing whitespace characters. > > Nevertheless I still like the idea of having a Type, a number and a >

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-27 Thread Michael Strey
Reading http://orgmode.org/worg/dev/org-syntax.html#Node_Properties I just realised that my clumsy property keys are against the rules since they are containing whitespace characters. Nevertheless I still like the idea of having a Type, a number and a Value for every property that can occur multip

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-26 Thread Michael Strey
On 2014-05-23, Alexis wrote: > What would be useful would be an 'official', fleshed-out spec for > org-contacts data, which handles a greater range of contact-related > info. At the moment, for example, my org-contacts file makes use of the > properties: > > #+PROPERTY: LANDLINE > #+PROPERTY: MOBI

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-25 Thread Alexis
Daimrod writes: > Sure, but then how would we define the map? with a fixed set of rules? > with a user customizable map (e.g. '(("MOBILE" -> "TELL;CELL") > ("EMAIL_WORK" -> "EMAIL;TYPE=work")))? More the latter. My initial (again, brainstorming!) thinking has an user-modifiable data structure a

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-25 Thread Daimrod
Alexis writes: > Daimrod writes: > >> So, as you said, we would need to define and document a specification >> for org-contacts. And we need to be clear from the beginning about >> what it can do and what it can not do. For example, it is unlikely >> that org-contacts will be a 1:1 mapping with

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Alexis
Daimrod writes: > So, as you said, we would need to define and document a specification > for org-contacts. And we need to be clear from the beginning about > what it can do and what it can not do. For example, it is unlikely > that org-contacts will be a 1:1 mapping with the vCard format in its

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Daimrod
Alexis writes: > Hi all, Hi, > [snip...] > > Fleshing out an extended spec for org-contacts data could be part of the > process of making org-contacts a first-class citizen of org-mode, and > provide a more solid foundation on which people can build (and share) > the org-contacts functionality t

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Alexis
Rasmus writes: > Check here: > > https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=carddav&fdpage=1&page_id=0 > > DAVdroid works very well. Oh okay, i didn't realise DAVdroid was FOSS. DAVdroid makes use of the ez-vcard library, which is BSD-licensed, and certainly seems like it might be useful.

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Rasmus
Alexis writes: > There might already be > a FOSS CardDAV library for Android out there that could be used for > syncing, but i've not researched that yet. Check here: https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdfilter=carddav&fdpage=1&page_id=0 DAVdroid works very well. -- Sådan en god dansk la

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Alexis
Alexander Baier writes: > For what it's worth, I would love to help out in any way I can. I use > org-contacts myself and know elisp well enough to also do some > implementing. But I wouldn't mind writing some documentation, either. Thank you! At this point i'm studying RFC 6350 (vCard 4) and

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Bastien
Hi Alexander, Alexander Baier writes: > For what it's worth, I would love to help out in any way I can. I use > org-contacts myself and know elisp well enough to also do some > implementing. But I wouldn't mind writing some documentation, either. > I, however, don't know much about Android pro

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Alexander Baier
On 2014-05-24 12:15 Alexis wrote: > Alexander Baier writes: > >> About the spec, might it make sense to use a standard already in >> existence as a starting point or even a major inspiration? Something >> like vCard for example? > > Yeah, i like the idea of building on top of vCard, given how wid

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Alexis
Bastien writes: > Alexis writes: > >> *nod* Good point i'd be happy to assign copyright to the FSF, >> myself, but i know that doing so is an issue for many people. > > Here you go! > > http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/plain/request-assign-future.txt > > :) Heh, thank you! i'll de

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Bastien
Alexis writes: > *nod* Good point i'd be happy to assign copyright to the FSF, > myself, but i know that doing so is an issue for many people. Here you go! http://orgmode.org/cgit.cgi/org-mode.git/plain/request-assign-future.txt :) -- Bastien

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Alexis
Xebar Saram writes: > This sounds awesome, i would love syncing org contacts with my android > phone :-) It's good to know i'm not the only one wanting this functionality - gives me more incentive to actually implement it! Alexis.

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Alexis
Alexander Baier writes: > About the spec, might it make sense to use a standard already in > existence as a starting point or even a major inspiration? Something > like vCard for example? Yeah, i like the idea of building on top of vCard, given how widely it's used and supported, and that it d

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Alexis
Bastien writes: > Improving org-contacts.el and making it part of Org core are two > separate issues -- not everything that is part of Org core gets a > lot of attention, and some contributed packages do. Oh okay, fair enough! > I'd say: go ahead with whatever conventions you want to enforce >

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-24 Thread Alexis
Rasmus writes: > You could also put yourself a slightly different challenge: map > between the org-contacts-format and an carddav server that you > establish as a backend on your phone. E.g. google contacts is a > carddav server, I think. > > I use DAVdroid for syncing my calendar and my contac

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-23 Thread Xebar Saram
Hi Alexis This sounds awesome, i would love syncing org contacts with my android phone thx alot! z On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:30 PM, Alexander Baier < alexander.ba...@mailbox.org> wrote: > Hello Alexis, > > On 2014-05-23 06:07 Alexis wrote: > > [...] > > > What would be useful would be an 'off

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-23 Thread Alexander Baier
Hello Alexis, On 2014-05-23 06:07 Alexis wrote: [...] > What would be useful would be an 'official', fleshed-out spec for > org-contacts data, which handles a greater range of contact-related > info. At the moment, for example, my org-contacts file makes use of the > properties: > > #+PROPERTY:

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-23 Thread Rasmus
Bastien writes: > PS: Actually, being part of Org core sometimes slow down things, > because substantial contributions then need to come from people > who assign their copyright to the Free Software Foundation. PPS: This is a feature. -- ツ

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-23 Thread Bastien
Hi Alexis, Alexis writes: > What do people think? Improving org-contacts.el and making it part of Org core are two separate issues -- not everything that is part of Org core gets a lot of attention, and some contributed packages do. I'd say: go ahead with whatever conventions you want to enfor

Re: [O] org-contacts development

2014-05-23 Thread Rasmus
Alexis writes: > What i'd now like to do is to add support for transferring data back and > forth between my org-contacts file and the Contacts store on my > phone. The challenge is the mapping between these two systems. You could also put yourself a slightly different challenge: map between the

[O] org-contacts development

2014-05-22 Thread Alexis
Hi all, i use org-contacts as my primary system for contact management. Consequently, i'd love to be able to make use of my org-contacts data on my Android phone. To that end, i recently wrote some code for MobileOrg-Android which adds basic PROPERTIES drawer support: https://github.com/matburt