Re: [O] org-exp

2013-06-14 Thread Nick Dokos
Uwe Brauer writes: >>> "Nick" == Nick Dokos writes: > >> Uwe Brauer writes: > "Eric" == Eric S Fraga writes: >>> >>> > Uwe Brauer writes: > >> (require 'ox) > >> is the closest equivalent. But the exporter has changed so much that it >> would not be surprisi

Re: [O] org-exp

2013-06-14 Thread Rasmus
Uwe Brauer writes: >> (require 'ox) >> is the closest equivalent. But the exporter has changed so much that it >> would not be surprising if this doesn't work either. > It does not work, but as I found out I have much more fundamental > problems with the new org-8 version than I thought[1] org-p

Re: [O] org-exp

2013-06-14 Thread Uwe Brauer
>> "Nick" == Nick Dokos writes: > Uwe Brauer writes: "Eric" == Eric S Fraga writes: >> >> > Uwe Brauer writes: > (require 'ox) > is the closest equivalent. But the exporter has changed so much that it > would not be surprising if this doesn't work either. It doe

Re: [O] org-exp

2013-06-14 Thread Uwe Brauer
>> "Achim" == Achim Gratz writes: > Uwe Brauer writes: >> >> - 7.8.X had a file called org-exp.el. This file is now gone. What is >> >> it substitute??? >> >> > What functionality is it you need from that file? >> >> I checked: this is the *essential* file to use >> or

Re: [O] org-exp

2013-06-13 Thread Achim Gratz
Uwe Brauer writes: >>> - 7.8.X had a file called org-exp.el. This file is now gone. What is >>> it substitute??? > >> What functionality is it you need from that file? > > I checked: this is the *essential* file to use > org-preview-latex-fragment in a > matlab-mode buffer or in a gn

Re: [O] org-exp

2013-06-13 Thread Nick Dokos
Uwe Brauer writes: >>> "Eric" == Eric S Fraga writes: > >> Uwe Brauer writes: >>> Hello >>> >>> Thanks to Achim's change in org-compat, I could compile and load the new >>> orgmode, without the complain about the obsolete function stuff. >>> >>> However there are s

[O] org-exp (was: org-8.0.3+Xemacs 21.5.32: still problems)

2013-06-13 Thread Uwe Brauer
>> "Eric" == Eric S Fraga writes: > Uwe Brauer writes: >> Hello >> >> Thanks to Achim's change in org-compat, I could compile and load the new >> orgmode, without the complain about the obsolete function stuff. >> >> However there are still serious problems: >> >> -

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-04-18 Thread Bastien
Hi Aaron, Aaron Ecay writes: > I hope this is not bothersome ... it is not, heads up are always welcome. > but have you had a chance to look at these patches? No -- and we are close to the release now, so let's not introduce new syntax for this. We still need to discuss this after Org 8.0, a

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex.el

2013-03-20 Thread Bastien
Hi Li, Li Bowen writes: > With the org-mode 8 new exporter, org-exp-bibtex.el doesn't work any > longer. I tried to change export hook to > org-export-before-preprocess-hook, but it is more complicated than I > hoped. I am looking for a patch, not urgent. Many thanks. Yes, this is a known issue

[O] org-exp-bibtex.el

2013-03-20 Thread Li Bowen
With the org-mode 8 new exporter, org-exp-bibtex.el doesn't work any longer. I tried to change export hook to org-export-before-preprocess-hook, but it is more complicated than I hoped. I am looking for a patch, not urgent. Many thanks. Below is my test file. ##

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-18 Thread Aaron Ecay
Hi Bastien, 2013ko martxoak 9an, Bastien-ek idatzi zuen: > > This is great -- I'll be offline this week-end, so I won't have time > to have a careful look before monday. But I will. I hope this is not bothersome, but have you had a chance to look at these patches? I thought they would solve t

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-11 Thread Andreas Leha
Jambunathan K writes: > Andreas Leha writes: > >> \footfullcite[prenote][postnote]{key} > > What would prenote and postnote typically contain. Where would they > appear in the exported document - In the citation reference or in the > citation definition. Can the same key have different pre-not

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-09 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Jambunathan K writes: > > I am not clear about: > > 1. How multiple keys are to be handled. > 2. What prenotes or postnotes mean. > 3. Chicago note style etc. > > > I think the community should answer and articulate 1, 2, 3 clearly. > With my proposal, there could be some minor changes in Footnot

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-09 Thread Jambunathan K
Jambunathan K writes: > Citation processor could be whatever org-exp-bibtex interfaces with > right now. I also have some proof-of-concept - see zotcite - for > zotero. I have a proof-of-concept on how to use Jabref to get citations in to ODT export. I will share a recipe sometime (when it wil

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-09 Thread Jambunathan K
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > I favor [cite:PROPERTIES] over [[cite:PROPERTIES]], because the latter > (link syntax) implies a (optional) description part. I don't think > a description is ever meaningful in citations. I have been holding on to this for a while. Just typing it out as it comes to my

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-09 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, aarone...@gmail.com writes: >> I think that if we ever implement a bibliography/citations handlers, >> they should be first class objects in Org syntax (like footnotes). >> Overloading link syntax would, IMO, be wrong in that case. > > Do you have a proposal for how this syntax would look?

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-09 Thread Bastien
Hi Aaron, aarone...@gmail.com writes: > This is now implemented, in the first of three patches attached to this > email. The second patch is a reworked version of the bibliography > support in my last patch, and the third implements link attributes for > HTML links. This is great -- I'll be off

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-08 Thread Rasmus
Aaron, >> 2. Citation selection should be possible via Reftex. > > In principle this is true, but I think RefTeX is deeply intertwined with > the assumption that it is running in a LaTeX buffer. Going through its > code and making it major-mode-agnostic is a worthy project all of its > own. B

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-08 Thread aaronecay
Hi Rasmus, 2013ko martxoak 7an, Rasmus Pank Roulund-ek idatzi zuen: > > In my book it would seem 'natural' to strive towards the following: > > 1. It should be Bibtex-based. I.e. Bibtex should be the 'database' > or storage for citation information. It may be stored in > Org-Bibtex

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-08 Thread aaronecay
Hello Bastien (et al), 2013ko martxoak 7an, Bastien-ek idatzi zuen: > > Hi Nicolas, > > I like Aaron's idea (maybe others proposed this too) of having > parameters in links: > > [[file:my.bib::key&&prenote=my prenote&&postnote=my postnote]] > > [[http://perdu.com&&title=You're lost?]] > > Thi

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-08 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Aloha Rasmus, Rasmus writes: > t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: > > > Indeed, but perhaps there is a better possible syntax. With Reftex > the the link-way is OK, but I still think that we should think about > whether there is a "Better Way"ᵀᴹ if Org was to add it officially. > > There ar

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-08 Thread Rasmus
t...@tsdye.com (Thomas S. Dye) writes: > Rasmus writes: > >> Achim Gratz writes: >> Do you mean using something like this [[file:my.bib&key=key;prenote=note1;postnote=note2][key]] for the file: protocol >>> >>> This is a prime example of how _not_ to do this, IMHO. T

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Rasmus Pank Roulund
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gmane.emacs.orgmode as well. Achim Gratz writes: >> Do you mean using something like this >> >> [[file:my.bib&key=key;prenote=note1;postnote=note2][key]] >> >> for the file: protocol > > This is a prime example of h

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Thomas S. Dye
Rasmus writes: > Achim Gratz writes: > >>> Do you mean using something like this >>> >>> [[file:my.bib&key=key;prenote=note1;postnote=note2][key]] >>> >>> for the file: protocol >> >> This is a prime example of how _not_ to do this, IMHO. The file >> protocol is an established protocol that

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Rasmus
Achim Gratz writes: >> Do you mean using something like this >> >> [[file:my.bib&key=key;prenote=note1;postnote=note2][key]] >> >> for the file: protocol > > This is a prime example of how _not_ to do this, IMHO. The file > protocol is an established protocol that you shouldn't bolt any extra

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: > I'm all for following established standards, but I'm not sure what is > the concrete proposal here. I don't have one yet, mainly because I'm fuzzy on what direction this will take. I ask again to consider what's already out there and that's mainly BibTeX and things that work in

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Bastien
Hi Achim, Achim Gratz writes: > Bastien writes: >> I like Aaron's idea (maybe others proposed this too) of having >> parameters in links: > > We've had some of this discussion about two years ago IIRC, so here I am > again: there's an internet standard for this kind of thing, it's called > URN/U

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Achim Gratz
Bastien writes: > I like Aaron's idea (maybe others proposed this too) of having > parameters in links: We've had some of this discussion about two years ago IIRC, so here I am again: there's an internet standard for this kind of thing, it's called URN/URI. If we adhere to this, we can at least h

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Bastien
Hi Nicolas, I like Aaron's idea (maybe others proposed this too) of having parameters in links: [[file:my.bib::key&&prenote=my prenote&&postnote=my postnote]] [[http://perdu.com&&title=You're lost?]] This is orthogonal to my proposal of extending #+LINK to be able to define new protocols (by al

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Bastien writes: > Hi Aaron, > > I now see where you and Eric go and this is good! > > Here is a revised suggestion, allowing to add link types from withing > the #+LINK keyword. > > 1. Allow more syntax for #+LINK: > >#+LINK: bib;%s;%s file:my.bib::%s org-bib-follow-link org-bib-export-li

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Aaron Ecay
Hi Bastien, On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 6:16 AM, Bastien wrote: > I want to allow adding link protocols (what I called "adding link > types") from #+LINK. Hmm. I think I am beginning to understand your motivation for this. > IIUC your proposal introduces some syntactic glue here: > [[type:key;pre;p

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Bastien
Hi Aaron, Aaron Ecay writes: > I suspect you may be targeting the wrong layer. Don't we want to use > org-link-protocols, not org-link-abbrev-alist? Protocols are already > handled by the exporter, so there should be no need for a change like > this one: > [...] I want to allow adding link pr

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Aaron Ecay
Hi Bastien, On Thu, Mar 7, 2013 at 5:21 AM, Bastien wrote: > Hi Aaron, > > I now see where you and Eric go and this is good! > > Here is a revised suggestion, allowing to add link types from withing > the #+LINK keyword. I suspect you may be targeting the wrong layer. Don't we want to use org-l

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Bastien
Hi Aaron, I now see where you and Eric go and this is good! Here is a revised suggestion, allowing to add link types from withing the #+LINK keyword. 1. Allow more syntax for #+LINK: #+LINK: bib;%s;%s file:my.bib::%s org-bib-follow-link org-bib-export-link If `org-bib-follow-link' is nil

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Jambunathan K
Andreas Leha writes: > \footfullcite[prenote][postnote]{key} What would prenote and postnote typically contain. Where would they appear in the exported document - In the citation reference or in the citation definition. Can the same key have different pre-note and post-note attached to it. I

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Eric S Fraga
writes: [...] > I’ve got some mostly-working code that exports citations, only for > latex, using a different approach (similar to Eric’s). I’ve cleaned it > up some, and attached it as a patch to this email. This looks quite nice. I am unlikely to try it out, however, as my simple cite: (and

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi Bastien, Bastien writes: > Hi Andreas, > > Andreas Leha writes: > >> But it looks very verbose to me. I expect the introduction to a >> scientific paper (with typically many \cite{}s) to look disrupted. > > Each \cite{...} would be nothing more than > [[cite:A.N.Whitehead][A.N.Whitehead]]

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-07 Thread Bastien
Hi Andreas, Andreas Leha writes: > But it looks very verbose to me. I expect the introduction to a > scientific paper (with typically many \cite{}s) to look disrupted. Each \cite{...} would be nothing more than [[cite:A.N.Whitehead][A.N.Whitehead]] in the Org file. The config happens in the #

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-06 Thread aaronecay
2013ko martxoak 6an, Bastien-ek idatzi zuen: > I'd suggest to treat org-link-abbrev-alist and locally defined > abbreviated links differently when opening the link at point and > when exporting the buffer. > > At expand time, the exporter could attach a list of export functions > (filters?) to the

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-06 Thread Andreas Leha
Hi Bastien, Bastien writes: > Hi Nicolas, > > Nicolas Goaziou writes: > >> If we're not going to provide a multi-backend solution, I suggest to >> keep things simple and write LaTeX code directly (or use the solution >> provided by Eric). Unless you have something else in mind with these >> lin

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-06 Thread Bastien
Hi Nicolas, Nicolas Goaziou writes: > If we're not going to provide a multi-backend solution, I suggest to > keep things simple and write LaTeX code directly (or use the solution > provided by Eric). Unless you have something else in mind with these > link abbrevs, of course. Can you resend me

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-06 Thread Andreas Leha
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Bastien writes: > >> Hi Andreas and all, >> >> Andreas Leha writes: >> >>> Eric suggested/uses this format (thanks for sharing, Eric): >>> [[cite:jones-etal-2000][Jones et al., 2000]] >>> ^^^ ^^ >>> key

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-06 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Bastien writes: > Hi Andreas and all, > > Andreas Leha writes: > >> Eric suggested/uses this format (thanks for sharing, Eric): >> [[cite:jones-etal-2000][Jones et al., 2000]] >> ^^^ ^^ >> key displayed in org > > I'd suggest

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-06 Thread Bastien
Hi Andreas and all, Andreas Leha writes: > Eric suggested/uses this format (thanks for sharing, Eric): > [[cite:jones-etal-2000][Jones et al., 2000]] > ^^^ ^^ > key displayed in org I'd suggest to treat org-link-abbrev-alist and loc

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-06 Thread Andreas Leha
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Hello, > > Andreas Leha writes: > >> Nicolas Goaziou writes: >> >>> Bastien writes: >>> Hi Vikas, François Allisson writes: > org-exp-bibtex, because of its dependency on the old exporter, was first > moved from contrib/lisp to contrib/old

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-04 Thread Suvayu Ali
On Mon, Mar 04, 2013 at 10:10:37AM +0530, Vikas Rawal wrote: > > I have a website that is built using old exporter. It used > org-exp-bibtex. I will move it to the new exporter, and if there is a > problem, get back to the mailing list. I think people should be using maint instead of master for p

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-04 Thread Eric S Fraga
I have the following defined in my org customisation: #+begin_src org (org-add-link-type "cite" 'ebib (lambda (path desc format) (cond ((eq format 'latex) (format "\\cite{%s}" path) #+end_src which allows me

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-03 Thread Vikas Rawal
> > I do confirm. Thank you. I have been trying to migrate to the new-exporter. I have not had much success so far but I hope to be able to figure it all out soon. Since we do not yet have a documentation, it is difficult. Nicolas has been very kind with help. I have a website that is built usi

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-03 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Hello, Andreas Leha writes: > Nicolas Goaziou writes: > >> Bastien writes: >> >>> Hi Vikas, >>> >>> François Allisson writes: >>> org-exp-bibtex, because of its dependency on the old exporter, was first moved from contrib/lisp to contrib/oldexp during the process of migration t

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-03 Thread Andreas Leha
Nicolas Goaziou writes: > Bastien writes: > >> Hi Vikas, >> >> François Allisson writes: >> >>> org-exp-bibtex, because of its dependency on the old exporter, was first >>> moved from contrib/lisp to contrib/oldexp during the process of >>> migration towards org new exporter. And yesterday, the

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-03 Thread Nicolas Goaziou
Bastien writes: > Hi Vikas, > > François Allisson writes: > >> org-exp-bibtex, because of its dependency on the old exporter, was first >> moved from contrib/lisp to contrib/oldexp during the process of >> migration towards org new exporter. And yesterday, the directory >> contrib/oldexp was eve

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-03 Thread Bastien
Hi Vikas, François Allisson writes: > org-exp-bibtex, because of its dependency on the old exporter, was first > moved from contrib/lisp to contrib/oldexp during the process of > migration towards org new exporter. And yesterday, the directory > contrib/oldexp was eventually removed[1]. Yes. W

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-03 Thread François Allisson
Le dimanche 3 mars 2013 à 08h06, Vikas Rawal a écrit: > org-exp-bibtex seems to have gone missing from git repository. Can > somebody confirm pleae. > > Vikas Dear Vikas, I do confirm. org-exp-bibtex, because of its dependency on the old exporter, was first moved from contrib/lisp to contrib/ol

[O] org-exp-bibtex missing in git?

2013-03-02 Thread Vikas Rawal
org-exp-bibtex seems to have gone missing from git repository. Can somebody confirm pleae. Vikas

Re: [O] org-exp-bibtex.el patch for zotero-generated citekeys

2011-10-06 Thread Carsten Dominik
This patch has now been accepted. - Carsten On Sep 12, 2011, at 10:26 PM, Nik Putnam wrote: > Dear Taru and orgmode community, > > Org-mode export to HTML is a really useful thing, and I love the > bibtex integration. > > I had a problem exporting from org-mode to HTML, with bibtex. I was > a

[O] org-exp-bibtex.el patch for zotero-generated citekeys

2011-09-12 Thread Nik Putnam
Dear Taru and orgmode community, Org-mode export to HTML is a really useful thing, and I love the bibtex integration. I had a problem exporting from org-mode to HTML, with bibtex. I was able to fix it with a change to a regular expression org-exp-bibtex.el. The diff is shown below. (My bibtex