Re: Replacement of spaces in wdired

2006-12-01 Thread Chris Moore
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wdired.el is in Emacs now. If this is clearly a bug, we should fix it. This is a bug - it shouldn't be possible to edit the space immediately before the filename, but hitting C-d on that space will delete it, and query-replace can also replace it.

Re: hexl-mode vs. repeated lines

2006-12-01 Thread Chris Moore
Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But does hexl-mode do that? Not that I know. What if I want to edit one of the bytes on one of those identical lines? od is read-only, so it's a good idea to hide identical lines, but hexl-mode lets me write as well as read, so it's good to at least

Re: TRAMP password caching

2006-12-01 Thread Chris Moore
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why does the situation with caching vary between ssh and scp? Why can't the scp method do whatever the ssh method does for passwords? I imagine because an ssh connection is persistant - once connected via ssh, multiple commands can be sent on a

Re: hexl-mode vs. repeated lines

2006-12-01 Thread Eli Zaretskii
From: Chris Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 01 Dec 2006 10:51:18 +0100 Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org, Dan Jacobson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Stefan Monnier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But does hexl-mode do that? Not that I know. What if I want to edit one of the bytes on one of those

Re: TRAMP password caching

2006-12-01 Thread Michael Albinus
Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: According to the manual, password cashing works if password.el is included in Emacs. Why does the situation with caching vary between ssh and scp? Why can't the scp method do whatever the ssh method does for passwords? In the ssh case,

Re: Info: fresher stuff hidden

2006-12-01 Thread Richard Stallman
No, it shouldn't: it's not uncommon for a system to have several DIR files along INFOPATH with identical entries pointing to the same manuals. It would be a nuisance to see all those identical entries line up in my face. Well, it could check whether the entries are identical and

Re: Use font-lock-support-mode rather than calling lazy-lock-mode

2006-12-01 Thread Eli Zaretskii
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 15:02:53 +0900 From: ishikawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org Perhaps adding something to etc/NEWS could alleviate such difficulties. WDYT? This sounds an interesting and workable idea. I added a short entry to NEWS. Thanks for bringing

Re: Toggling buffer-local variables from Options menu on menu bar

2006-12-01 Thread Richard Stallman
I investigated this. The commands that toggle default values, such as toggle-case-fold-search, fail to make this clear in their doc strings. Would someone please fix those doc strings? There is already a menu item Truncate Long Lines in this Buffer. (Its doc string doesn't make clear that it

Re: TRAMP password caching

2006-12-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
ssh-agent solves the problem. Except when the remote host needs your password to read your .ssh/authorize_keys, as is the case when this authorize_keys file is on an NFSv4 partition mounted using Kerberos authentication. Stefan being there, doing that

Re: TRAMP password caching

2006-12-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
I think we should revert the default to ssh rather than scp: the behavior of the ssh method is much cleaner/smoother/userfriendly. Its only downside is a lesser performance but I think this is a secondary issue. I think the first thing to do is try to fix these bad behaviors.

Re: apparent AIX 5.2 undump problem for 22.0.90 pretest

2006-12-01 Thread Joe Buehler
Richard Stallman wrote: However, there is probably a flaw in undump here that is likely to cause other problems. It appears that state is being preserved across undump that should not be. We have to depend on AIX users to debug this. Can you describe the symptoms? Meanwhile, I

Re: Info: fresher stuff hidden

2006-12-01 Thread Kevin Rodgers
Richard Stallman wrote: No, it shouldn't: it's not uncommon for a system to have several DIR files along INFOPATH with identical entries pointing to the same manuals. It would be a nuisance to see all those identical entries line up in my face. Well, it could check whether the

Re: hexl-mode vs. repeated lines

2006-12-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
But does hexl-mode do that? Not that I know. What if I want to edit one of the bytes on one of those identical lines? od is read-only, so it's a good idea to hide identical lines, but hexl-mode lets me write as well as read, so it's good to at least have the option of seeing the whole file

M-x insert-file-literally not documented

2006-12-01 Thread Kevin Rodgers
2006-12-01 Kevin Rodgers [EMAIL PROTECTED] * files.texi (Misc File Ops): Document `M-x insert-file-literally' right after `M-x insert-file'. *** files.texi.orig 2006-09-12 20:19:29 - --- files.texi 2006-12-01 10:43:48 -0700 *** *** 2433,2438 ---

large-file-warning-threshold and insert-file

2006-12-01 Thread Kevin Rodgers
The Emacs manual says: , File: emacs, Node: Visiting |If you try to visit a file larger than | `large-file-warning-threshold' (the default is 1000, which is about | 10 megabytes), Emacs will ask you for confirmation first. ` Should `M-x insert-file' also check the file

ESC rebinding?

2006-12-01 Thread robert marshall
I'm not aware of rebinding ESC - especially as I get it when run with -Q but I get lots of claims of this when viewing the tutorial I also get the following bit highlighted: The most basic HELP feature is C-h c. Type C-h, the character c, and a command character or sequence; then Emacs

Re: Toggling buffer-local variables from Options menu on menu bar

2006-12-01 Thread Nick Roberts
I investigated this. The commands that toggle default values, such as toggle-case-fold-search, fail to make this clear in their doc strings. Would someone please fix those doc strings? I've done this for toggle-case-fold-search. There is already a menu item Truncate Long Lines in this

Re: bad copyright years

2006-12-01 Thread Richard Stallman
I also see there that the Copyright years 1992-1998 were all listed explicitly at one point, then in 1999 got changed to the compact form. So it seems pretty clear they should be put back. Yes, please do. ___ emacs-pretest-bug mailing list

Re: bad copyright years

2006-12-01 Thread Richard Stallman
A few other files have odd Copyright notices, eg leim/MISC-DIC/CTLau.html leim/quail/CTLau.el lisp/international/titdic-cnv.el lisp/language/thai-word.el Eg who owns the copyright for thai-word.el in 2006? Who has owned titdic-cnv.el since 2002? Handa, can you

Re: bad copyright years

2006-12-01 Thread Richard Stallman
I think this means don't delete years, not don't reformat the way years appear. I guess it also means list the copyright owners at the time. No, definitely not. If someone has assigned copyright to the FSF, then the copyright notices for his work should say Free Software

Re: TRAMP password caching

2006-12-01 Thread Richard Stallman
What about if you use ssh-agent? Does that solve the problem? ssh-agent solves the problem. So does using these 2 lines: ControlMaster auto ControlPath /tmp/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:%p in ~/.ssh/config, and having an existing ssh connection to the remote host. Then

Re: apparent AIX 5.2 undump problem for 22.0.90 pretest

2006-12-01 Thread Richard Stallman
The immediate problem can be worked around by building emacs as a user who has no access to /dev/kmem (normal users do not). This causes getloadavg to fail before emacs undumps, leaving state initialized properly for operation after the undump. Let's implement code to prevent

Emacs 22.0.91 working, lazy-lock documentation inconsistency?

2006-12-01 Thread Roland Roberts
Emacs 22.0.91 is working normally on Fedora Core 5. However, I had to comment out lazy-lock from my .emacs. I see the .el file is now is lisp/obsolete where it does not get installed by default, and it is not mentioned in the info pages, but it does appear in the documentation for

Outline mode show-subtree leaves ellipses

2006-12-01 Thread Liam Healy
Please write in English if possible, because the Emacs maintainers usually do not have translators to read other languages for them. Your bug report will be posted to the emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org mailing list. Please describe exactly what actions triggered the bug and the precise symptoms of

comint-interrupt-subjob doesn't work with mingw build

2006-12-01 Thread David
I've recently built with mingw, and comint/shell mode doesn't seem to respond to C-c C-c. I've also tried to invoke the signal using the menu, no luck. I then tried to invoke using M-x comint-interrupt-subjob, still no luck. I thought maybe it was the bash.exe, but I tried interrupting a

Re: bad copyright years

2006-12-01 Thread Nick Roberts
I think this means don't delete years, not don't reformat the way years appear. I guess it also means list the copyright owners at the time. No, definitely not. If someone has assigned copyright to the FSF, then the copyright notices for his work should say

Re: bad copyright years

2006-12-01 Thread Kenichi Handa
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Stallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: A few other files have odd Copyright notices, eg leim/MISC-DIC/CTLau.html This is a verbatim copy of the original file. leim/quail/CTLau.el This file is automatically generated from

Re: Emacs 22.0.91 working, lazy-lock documentation inconsistency?

2006-12-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
However, I had to comment out lazy-lock from my .emacs. Why? (I mean, it's good that you did, but Emacs should still work just fine with lazy-lock: i.e. should not have been forced) I see the .el file is now is lisp/obsolete where it does not get installed by default, It does get installed.

Re: comint-interrupt-subjob doesn't work with mingw build

2006-12-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
I've recently built with mingw, and comint/shell mode doesn't seem to respond to C-c C-c. I've also tried to invoke the signal using the menu, no luck. I then tried to invoke using M-x comint-interrupt-subjob, still no luck. Most likely the subprocess is a cygwin executable. This is a

Re: TRAMP password caching

2006-12-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
What about if you use ssh-agent? Does that solve the problem? ssh-agent solves the problem. So does using these 2 lines: ControlMaster auto ControlPath /tmp/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:%p in ~/.ssh/config, and having an existing ssh connection to the remote host. Then

Re: Emacs 22.0.91 working, lazy-lock documentation inconsistency?

2006-12-01 Thread Glenn Morris
Stefan Monnier wrote: However, I had to comment out lazy-lock from my .emacs. Why? (I mean, it's good that you did, but Emacs should still work just fine with lazy-lock: i.e. should not have been forced) I see the .el file is now is lisp/obsolete where it does not get installed by default,

Re: Emacs 22.0.91 working, lazy-lock documentation inconsistency?

2006-12-01 Thread Stefan Monnier
`make autoloads' does not process lisp/obsolete, so lazy-lock-mode and fast-lock-mode do not get autoloaded. [ Hmm... I guess for some reason it wasn't removed from my loaddefs.el. Probably because I never bootstrap or something. Looks like a bug in autoload.el. ] Indeed you're right.