Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Marius Liebenberg
>On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Niemand Sonst wrote: >> I do not want to jog in Auto mode, but why not in MDI Mode? > >Internally, Auto mode and MDI mode are the same thing. Machine >motion is controlled by the g-code interpreter. The only difference >is where the g-code comes from, progra

Re: [Emc-developers] RTAI ethernet

2016-01-16 Thread Alec Ari
I believe the hostmot2 ethernet drivers only work (or at least have only been tested) with PREEMPT_RT. Alec Ari -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visibility into Application Performance APM + Mobile APM + RUM: Monitor 3

Re: [Emc-developers] StepNC file as input to LinuxCNC

2016-01-16 Thread EBo
On Jan 16 2016 3:20 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 16 January 2016 at 16:01, Lakshman Naresh Coimbatore Annadorai > wrote: >> Yes, it is the same project. >> >> You have mentioned that "The changes to do this are already included >> in the >> Machinekit project, I believe.". If this were true, it woul

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 January 2016 at 17:23, Niemand Sonst wrote: > I do not want to jog in Auto mode, but why not in MDI Mode? I think that the confusion here is that "MDI Mode" means different things from the user persepctive than it does from the developer perspective. I think that the original questions was

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread John Thornton
"Do you really mean it" prompts are so very annoying I hate them. On 1/16/2016 12:28 PM, Darren Conway wrote: > Hello > > If this is a common problem and if it could have harmful effects (eg > injury, damaged workpiece) then the HMI should provide some protection > from user errors. Something equ

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Chris Morley
> Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2016 14:49:23 -0500 > From: ler...@se-ltd.com > To: emc-developers@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode? > > John's original response contains two aspects: > > 1 -- A technical reason why that would not be consistent

Re: [Emc-developers] StepNC file as input to LinuxCNC

2016-01-16 Thread andy pugh
On 16 January 2016 at 16:01, Lakshman Naresh Coimbatore Annadorai wrote: > Yes, it is the same project. > > You have mentioned that "The changes to do this are already included in the > Machinekit project, I believe.". If this were true, it would be of great > help. In a previous email on the sam

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Les Newell
> A -- The tool is dull and we need to move to a new position and replace the > tool with a sharp one. In that case, we might want to also touch off the > new tool to measure it's length and also change the tool length in a tool > table. B -- You are cutting a stringy material such as plastic and n

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Jon Elson
On 01/16/2016 09:15 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > I have to agree with that. It is most irritating to have to switch to > manual if you want to jog and that for no apparent reason. > > > A jog dial (MPG) works in MDI. The keyboard keys <- -> (and up and down arrows to select lines to recall) ar

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Kenneth Lerman
John's original response contains two aspects: 1 -- A technical reason why that would not be consistent with the present design 2 -- An argument (made by some) why that would be a bad idea. To add to this: 1 -- The interpreter reads the gcode and outputs canonical instructions to a queue that i

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread John Thornton
switch to manual mode to jog On 1/16/2016 11:23 AM, Niemand Sonst wrote: > I do not want to jog in Auto mode, but why not in MDI Mode? > > I do agree, that jogging during a machine movement is not a good idea. > But in MDI MOde the machine is very often in the idle state and jogging > should be al

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Les Newell
I have to agree with Norbert here. On my mill I mostly do one-offs. I have jog wheels for each axis, making it possible to operate the machine very much like a manual with DRO. For simple stuff like facing off or squaring up an edge I'll use the jog wheels. If for instance I want to drill a hol

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Darren Conway
Hello If this is a common problem and if it could have harmful effects (eg injury, damaged workpiece) then the HMI should provide some protection from user errors. Something equivalent to a mechanical missile type switch. Adding the option to include a pop up "Do you really mean it" type mess

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Niemand Sonst
Hallo Len, if you hit the wrong command, that is your fault! Please be carfull! But that behavior would not be changed if you also allow jogging in MDI mode and machine being idle. I have attached to my pendant a "dead Man Switch" so if that button is not pressed, no movement will ocure, but if

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Niemand Sonst
Am 16.01.2016 um 18:29 schrieb John Kasunich: > > On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Niemand Sonst wrote: >> I do not want to jog in Auto mode, but why not in MDI Mode? > Internally, Auto mode and MDI mode are the same thing. Machine > motion is controlled by the g-code interpreter. The only diff

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Niemand Sonst
Dave, yes it make sense if you want to go to a defined position, but what if you just want to jog around a fixture by hand. I like to use my handwheel for that, but it will not work, because jogging is not allowed in MDI Tab / Mode Norbert Am 16.01.2016 um 18:27 schrieb Dave Caroline: > A jog

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Len Shelton
I think the issue is that selecting the MDI tab places it in auto mode. I would agree that simply selecting that tab should not change modes, but actually running an MDI command should. Its just as dangerous allowing a double click from an MDI history to run that command. I have double clicked

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread John Kasunich
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, at 12:23 PM, Niemand Sonst wrote: > I do not want to jog in Auto mode, but why not in MDI Mode? Internally, Auto mode and MDI mode are the same thing. Machine motion is controlled by the g-code interpreter. The only difference is where the g-code comes from, program or ke

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Dave Caroline
A jog is not well defined, in MDI mode you are generally doing something with some accuracy, therefore it makes sense then to jog with gcode to exactly where you need. Dave Caroline -- Site24x7 APM Insight: Get Deep Visib

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Niemand Sonst
I do not want to jog in Auto mode, but why not in MDI Mode? I do agree, that jogging during a machine movement is not a good idea. But in MDI MOde the machine is very often in the idle state and jogging should be allowed. There could be a status check for machine is idle to allow jogging. Norb

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread John Kasunich
On Sat, Jan 16, 2016, at 10:15 AM, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > I have to agree with that. It is most irritating to have to switch to > manual if you want to jog and that for no apparent reason. > > > >Hy to all, > > > >I am pretty sure it has been discused allredy, but I do not remember > >the

Re: [Emc-developers] StepNC file as input to LinuxCNC

2016-01-16 Thread Lakshman Naresh Coimbatore Annadorai
Yes, it is the same project. You have mentioned that "The changes to do this are already included in the Machinekit project, I believe.". If this were true, it would be of great help. On Sat, Jan 16, 2016 at 5:52 AM, andy pugh wrote: > On 15 January 2016 at 19:18, Lakshman Naresh Coimbatore Ann

Re: [Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I have to agree with that. It is most irritating to have to switch to manual if you want to jog and that for no apparent reason. >Hy to all, > >I am pretty sure it has been discused allredy, but I do not remember >the >reason, why jogging is not allowed in MDI mode. > >I do not see any reason,

[Emc-developers] GladeVCP widget hal_filechooser does not handle INI settings

2016-01-16 Thread Niemand Sonst
Hallo, If you use GladeVCP to load a file, the file will be loaded with hal_filechooser.py. This file does not load prior to the file the INI Code [RS274NGC] RS274NGC_STARTUP_CODE So my question is: - Should not be loaded the startup code prior to any loaded file? Imagine a user running file

[Emc-developers] Why is it not allowed to jog in MDI mode?

2016-01-16 Thread Niemand Sonst
Hy to all, I am pretty sure it has been discused allredy, but I do not remember the reason, why jogging is not allowed in MDI mode. I do not see any reason, why to keep that limitation. Norbert -- Site24x7 APM Insight:

Re: [Emc-developers] StepNC file as input to LinuxCNC

2016-01-16 Thread andy pugh
On 15 January 2016 at 19:18, Lakshman Naresh Coimbatore Annadorai wrote: > Dear All, > > I'm a graduate student at NC State University. I'm working on a research > project to develop a feedback based compiler for CNC machines. This > compiler is proposed to accept StepNC file and directly control