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I assume this will wipe out all humans with pacemakers either by direct
electrocution or by destruction of their pacemaker.
Bob Johnson
ITE Safety
From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
[mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org] On Behalf Of
RE: IEC60950 (1992) 2nd edition 3/31/03
I do know that for Telecom Power Distribution Units that Listed Circuit
Breakers will now be required in place of Supplementary Protectors which
were allowed under UL1950.
John
Peter L. Tarver wrote:
Amund -
I read in !emc-pstc that richwo...@tycoint.com wrote (in 846BF526A205F8
4BA2B6045BBF7E9A6A04675E3A@flbocexu05) about 'CISPR 22 Ed. 4.0 Vote
Results' on Mon, 31 Mar 2003:
Voting on CISPR/I/67/FDIS for CISPR 22 Ed. 4.0 ended 2003-03-21. Does anyone
know the results?
It usually takes a lot longer
Richard,
CISPR/I/67/FDIS passed by 1 vote. We now are waiting for the IEC Central
Office to publish CISPR 22, 4th Edition.
Ghery Pettit
From: richwo...@tycoint.com [mailto:richwo...@tycoint.com]
Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:56 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: CISPR 22 Ed. 4.0
Mark mentioned reports,
a paper trail...or is it?
Vendors doing the EMC/EMI ?,
who might a vendor be for say IBM or Dell?
would think the mfr'r would have an associate
there during testing like most of us do.
Seems it would be easy to look at the report,
from which test lab did it,
are they
I agree with Mr. Woodgate. Leading off with the Forrestal, without
adequately explaining the failure mechanism, gives an unrealistic and
misleading introduction to the subject. There was a degraded shield
termination that allowed rf to couple to EED leads. For an entity whose
emission challenge
Good points. Perhaps the units to be tested need to be given a simulated
shipping ordeal prior to testing. Dropping, shaking, heating, and cooling.
Dave Cuthbert
From: Gary McInturff [mailto:gary.mcintu...@worldwidepackets.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 8:35 AM
To: lfresea...@aol.com;
Voting on CISPR/I/67/FDIS for CISPR 22 Ed. 4.0 ended 2003-03-21. Does anyone
know the results?
Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International
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In directive 93/86/EEC (relating to batteries containing certain dangerous
substances),
it says the symbol shall cover 3% of the area of the largest side of the
battery
or accumulator, up to a maximum size of 5 cm x 5 cm. For cylinrical cells
the symbol
shall 3% of half the surface area of the
Some of these units are so far out that the variation from site to site is the
least of their problems.
Mark J. Kirincic
mkirin...@houston.rr.com
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From: lfresea...@aol.com
To: rsto...@lucent.com ; drcuthb...@micron.com ; mkirin...@houston.rr.com ;
In a message dated 3/27/2003 9:34:03 AM Central Standard Time,
peter.tar...@sanmina-sci.com writes:
While I can't speak for all OEM pc manufacturers or intend
to contradict your personal experience
My personal experience has only had me visit 2 OEM's Both were exceptional.
You don't
John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk 03/28/03 04:11pm
If products that exceed a limit by 20 dB don't cause an unacceptable
increased level of complaints, why retain the stringent limit: cui bono?
Just a thought about this argument about complaints. Having worked in the EMC
business for
Dear all,
Can anyone advise what directive and standards we should be applying to
industrial furnaces. I am quite confident in covering the safety requirements
of the associated control and electrics, but I have no idea on how to approach
a furnace with vacuum inside to remove impurities from
This standard covers safety of UPS systems, and I guess it replaces
EN50091-1-1 at some point. I need to know when EN62040-1-1 will be
published in the OJ (if anyone knows), when EN50091-1-1 ceases to be useful
for new approvals, and when products approved to it have to be updated to
the new
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From: drcuthbert [mailto:drcuthb...@micron.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 8:00 AM
To: 'robert Macy'; drcuthbert; 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'
Subject: RE: high immunity
Robert,
I figured 5 kV/m for a distance of 100 meters, over ground.
Using commonly
The recent string with the subject OK, what's going on?
alleges that a named manufacturer's product does not
comply with a requirement.
We feel that, in the case of a negative or derogatory
comment or allegation (in this case non-compliance), the
manufacturer (or individual) should NOT be
Everyone know you can't clean a vacuum - there is nothing there to clean!
Don Borowski
Schweitzer Engineering Labs
Pullman, WA
John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk@majordomo.ieee.org on 03/31/2003
09:22:42 AM
Please respond to John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk
Sent by:
When the missile launched it struck another aircraft, the pilot was John
Mccain, now Senator John McCain.
Bill
From: Ken Javor [mailto:ken.ja...@emccompliance.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:37 PM
To: boconn...@t-yuden.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: Help wanted with
Richard,
I can live with a couple of dB failure that is in the minutia. What I am
talking about is a signature that can be broad band in nature and having a
class B product fail class A miserably. This is just a blatant disregard for
the standards.
Mark J. Kirincic
mkirin...@houston.rr.com
In a message dated 3/28/03 10:05:02 AM Central Standard Time,
rsto...@lucent.com writes:
what do you do to the company that passes site A
oats,then fails site B...go to site C?...best 2 out of 3?
HI Richard..
As an assessor, we have been taking great steps to get this problem down to
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From: Hjálmar Árnason [mailto:hjal...@mi.is]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 3:14 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Calibrating police radar guns
Hi Forum
I can recall back in November 2000 there was some discussions here in
this group on how to fight
Charlie
I passed your question to a collegue of mine at ERA, Dr Parvinder Bansal,
who specialises in this area as well as in antenna modelling, EMF exposure
advice and EMF site surveys.
You will see below that I am passing on his comments as he is not on
EMC-PSTC, and he may be able to assist
Dear All,
I am looking for a source that specifies the maximum voltage, current and VA
which may be drawn from various standard SELV interfaces, like the AUI port of
the network termination card on a computer.
Thanks
_
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! Platinum http://rd.yahoo.com/pl
I guess now its my turn to put in my two cents. The major reason that you are
having a hard time finding units that pass is that all these major computer
companies rely on their vendors to test the products to FCC and CE limits.
Since the majority of these companies have suppliers in the Taiwan
Tim,
what is CEM?
Dave Cuthbert
From: Wan Juang Foo [mailto:f...@np.edu.sg]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 2:34 AM
To: drcuthbert; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: NEC-2 simulations
I use NEC-2 in a limited way.
Good to hear that there are others on the PSTC list that does
Earl -
While I can't speak for all OEM pc manufacturers or intend
to contradict your personal experience, without question,
Sanmina-SCI's Calgary and San Jose facilities DO NOT hedge
on EMC or in any other compliance discipline. We have an
excellent 10 m indoor semianechoic chamber in San Jose,
If GW, wouldn't that voltage be more like 600KV/m, or at
least 30KV/m?
- Robert -
Robert A. Macy, PEm...@california.com
408 286 3985 fx 408 297 9121
AJM International Electronics Consultants
101 E San Fernando, Suite 402
San Jose,
Amund -
Neither CSA nor UL will accept new product certifications
using CSA 22.2 No 950-95/UL1950, 3rd ed, as of 1APR2003.
You will need to submit against CSA 22.2 No.
60950-00/UL60950, 3rd ed.
The implication is that any reports you may have for the
power supply are probably inadequate in and
The directive says The symbol must be printed visibly, legibly and
indelibly. No minimum size is specified.
Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International
From: James, Chris [mailto:c...@dolby.co.uk]
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 9:27 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject:
Doug
Is the CuBe catalog available on the web as I would like to have a look at
it?
Thanks
John Allen
From: Doug Smith [mailto:d...@emcesd.com]
Sent: 28 March 2003 04:51
To: George Stults
Cc: Cortland Richmond; lfresea...@aol.com; ieee pstc list
Subject: Re: OK, what's going on?
Hi George
Charlie,
1/2 lambda is 7.5 cm at 2 GHz. At this distance the field strength is 67 V/m
assuming far field. So, no near field calculations are needed as long as the
distance is greater than approximately 10 cm. The actual field is not that
difficult to calculate anyway. Or, just use NEC to simulate
I read in !emc-pstc that Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com wrote
(in baa8f534.2522%ken.ja...@emccompliance.com) about 'Help wanted with
succinct subject description for non-specialists' on Thu, 27 Mar
2003:
It is interesting, nonetheless, to note that the disaster occurred
in
Hi,
do you know if is it any homologation process involve in order to sell in
Italy?
The product does not have any telecomm ( phone/DSL ) interfaces, but it
should be installed in Central Office type environment.
Should DoC and Environmental testing (ETSI 300 019) be enough?
Is any protocol
I read in !emc-pstc that Luke Turnbull luke.turnb...@trw.com wrote (in
se87afb4.056@gwisegwc) about 'OK, what's going on?' on Mon, 31 Mar
2003:
Half a year later I finally
worked out that my cheap (CE marked) carphone charger was causing the
problem. I was going to complain to trading standards
I read in !emc-pstc that David Sproul david.spr...@alexanderlynn.co.uk
wrote (in lnepkcgaigehccdompbbgekgchaa.david.spr...@alexanderlynn.co.uk
) about 'EU standards applying to Furnaces' on Mon, 31 Mar 2003:
Dear all,
Can anyone advise what directive and standards we should be applying
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