Re: EU directives for SMPS

2003-11-03 Thread GARY MCINTURFF
Mike,This won't address you question directly - but this is often a problem with SMPS folks for a couple of reasons. 1) Price competition can be pretty cut throat so they are not wanting to do anything they don't have to. 2)The results of the emissions tests are heavily dependant upon the

Re: Class 1 AC/DC adapter

2003-11-03 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Raymond: 1. Earth continuity test As the class 1 is due to the additional earthing plate, how can I ignore the earth continuity test? Class I is due to the adapter having an appliance coupler with a PE terminal. Without this earthing plate, the unit is in fact a class 2

Re: Class 1 AC/DC adapter

2003-11-03 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Chengwee Lai: 2. Earth Continuity or ground bond testing with 25A or higher is not applicable with plastic case and not applicable at the DC output side. It was meant to check the earth protection continuity of a metal chassis. Protective earthing is required for any conductive

Re: Class 1 AC/DC adapter

2003-11-03 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Raymond: Any product with a PE (ground) connection is, by definition, a Class I product. The common adapters you describe, despite being encased in plastic, are Class I products. 1. Function of the grounding plate The primary and the secondary is reinforced insulation and

IEC 61010-1:2001 section 6.7.3.2 Clearance Calculation

2003-11-03 Thread POWELL, DOUG
Has anyone tried to work through the two examples given in this section? In trying to understand how to use the CLEARANCE = D1 + F(D2-D1) equation, I was hoping to check my work with the examples that were given. Either I'm missing something or these examples have some really fundamental

Re: EU directives for SMPS

2003-11-03 Thread Ken Javor
Not an area in which I am expert, but doesn't the low voltage directive point you at EMC requirements? From: Sosnoski, Michael gl...@wmsgaming.com Reply-To: Sosnoski, Michael gl...@wmsgaming.com Date: Mon, 3 Nov 2003 13:48:48 -0600 To: 'emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org'

RE: EU directives for SMPS

2003-11-03 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
If the SMPS is sold to a manufacturer as a component, the EMC Directive is not applicable. However, if the SMPS is sold on the open market, the EMC Directive does apply. See the commission's guidelines at http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/guides/emcguide.ht m If the URL

RE: EU directives for SMPS

2003-11-03 Thread Brian O'Connell
The EMC directive cannot be cited on the Declaration of Conformity for a component SMPS. Please review the EMCD on the EU web site. If the mfr is competent, they will have pre-compliance test data and conditions. It is not possible to apply an EMC certification to a component SMPS; the mfr has no

EU directives for SMPS

2003-11-03 Thread Sosnoski, Michael
Can anyone tell me what EU directives are required for a SMPS? I have a supplier telling me only the LVD is required? I am shocked that the EMC directive would not be required for a SMPS also. I will look at their DOC, and see what the declared-just wondering. Mike Sosnoski This message is

RE: France's new Frequency allocation

2003-11-03 Thread Rachid Sehb
Cyril, The new publication stated that : indoor use limitation of 100 mW EIRP for the 2.4-2.4835 Ghz band outdoor use limitation of 100 mW EIRP for the 2.4-2.454 Ghz and 10 mW for the 2.454-2.4835Ghz band Find encloses a summary of the frequency allocation for the RLAN and the 5 Ghz. You

RE: France's new Frequency allocation

2003-11-03 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
The 8 October revision of ERC/REC 70-03 lists a French restriction of 10 mW eirp indoor in Annex 1 (non-specific devices). Annex 3 (RLANs HyperLANs) lists no restrictions for indoor use and 10 mW eirp for the 2454-2483.5 MHz band. Richard Woods Sensormatic Electronics Tyco International

Re: Equipotential Terminal - Yellow/Green Disc?

2003-11-03 Thread pat.law...@verizon.net
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003 07:35:27 +0200, Jon Griver jgri...@601help.com wrote: Medical devices frequently include an equipotential terminal. It is used to ensure that all devices connected simultaneously to a patient are referenced to the same earth potential, otherwise any differences can cause a

France's new Frequency allocation

2003-11-03 Thread Binnom, Cyril A
All: I have been given information that France has relaxed their once restricted Frequency allocation to comply with the entire European Union per July 25, 2003. This states that for indoor use the entire 2.4GHz band is available at a power limit of 100mw. My question is are there any

RE: MEDICAL SAFETY STANDARDS

2003-11-03 Thread Doug Massey
Hi Ian, A little more info about the UL Medical Device Standards: UL 2601-1 is IEC 60601-1 +A1..A2 + US Nat'l deviations. The US national deviations and amendments are in separate places in the standard, so for any one clause, one must look in three places in the standard, to be sure to catch

RE: MEDICAL SAFETY STANDARDS

2003-11-03 Thread Barker, Neil
Ian, Almost certainly a typo. I am fairly certain that they mean IEC60601-1. The IEC and UL versions are very similar, but the UL version includes national variations for the USA so these will need to be taken into account. You will find the requirements of this standard more demanding than most

Re: MEDICAL SAFETY STANDARDS

2003-11-03 Thread dave.osb...@philips.com
Hello Ian, It is IEC 60601-1 which also has many related collateral and particular parts, i.e., 60601-1-xx and 60601-2-xx. UL 2601-1 is IEC 60601-1 + UL (USA) deviations. Best regards, Dave Osborn PM-CMS Philips Medical Systems +1 978 659 3178 fax +1 978 685 5624 d.g.osb...@ieee.org

MEDICAL SAFETY STANDARDS

2003-11-03 Thread Gordon,Ian
All Does anyone have information on these 2 standards: IEC 60101-1 and UL 60601-1? Are they equivalent? I am not certain that the IEC version actually exists - it doesn't appear on the IEC website but a couple of other sites do quote it. This may be a typo from a customer! Any help would be

RE: Component substitutions

2003-11-03 Thread John Allen
Hi Folks I think the URL to which Chris refers is this http://www.aca.gov.au/consumer_info/frequently_asked_questions/emc.htm#repla ceparts It is part of the FAQ on this page http://www.aca.gov.au/consumer_info/frequently_asked_questions/emc.htm Useful, but only up to a point! Regards John

RE: Component substitutions

2003-11-03 Thread francesco.campede...@transport.alstom.com
The following link suggests an interesting approach based upon Risk Assessment Techniques: http://www.tridatacom.co.uk/Downloads/EDRA/EDRA_York2003.pdf I don't believe that this metodology is considered in any standard (at least so far ... ) Regards ing. Francesco Campedelli RD - HW Design

Equipotential Terminal - Yellow/Green Disc?

2003-11-03 Thread Jon Griver
Dear Group, Medical devices frequently include an equipotential terminal. It is used to ensure that all devices connected simultaneously to a patient are referenced to the same earth potential, otherwise any differences can cause a current through the patient. Does anyone know the standard