Re: PDA back lighting potential

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
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RE: PDA back lighting potential

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ken, First, the disclaimer - I'm not an I-Safe expert but my company does make some I-Safe products so I have some knowledge that I've absorbed here. So take that into account when evaluating this advice... I believe the important factor is energy, not voltage, for explosive atmosphere use.

Re: Ethernet cable: 2 versus 4 pairs.

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Although technically incorrect I thing the RJ45 name has become generalized just as Kleenex and Xerox has. Those were trademarks but other words have undergone similar generalizations. Doug Fred Townsend wrote: History is replete with many examples of connector misnaming: DB9 for DA9

RE: Rhodium PCB

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
We’re still seeing who can plate rhodium. It appears that gold is the low cost alternative to rhodium not nearly as hard as rhodium but gold is only $600 an ounce. Rhodium is $5000. Dave Cuthbert Linear Technology _ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On

RE: dated or undated reference to EN standards

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Thanks, Tom. It's interesting that the 2001 edition did not have that note. I believe that it just means that the current edition of the referenced standard was used, at the time the standard with Annex ZA was published, rather than a previous edition. As you are aware, the first paragraph in

RE: Rhodium PCB

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Hi Dan, Although I’ve never spec’d it in, I believe that “Palladium” or “Palladium Nickel” plating has been an accepted alternative for years to the 50uin of gold specified by Part 68 (now EIA/TIA-968 as Joe pointed out). Trying to filter thru the cobwebs, I think I remember that the

RE: Rhodium PCB

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Some connector vendors have functionally equivalent platings that have gone through testing. The usually have exotic or trademarked names that escape me at the moment (they are not overly memorable names). Dan _ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Joe

Re: Rhodium PCB

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
On 12/15/2006, Bill Owsley wrote: Dredging thru the archives of my memory, I recall the 50 um of gold as a minimum requirement for the RJ - Registered Jack spec from the old Bell labs for reliability. It might now be enshined in an IPC spec, or still just a telecom detail. Hi Bill: That

Re: Ethernet cable: 2 versus 4 pairs.

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
History is replete with many examples of connector misnaming: DB9 for DA9 Centronics for Ampenol 'Blue Ribbon' IBM Printer for DB25 and elsewhere on airplanes black boxes for orange boxes or even hacker for criminal phone or fone for voice radio Fred Townsend Joe Randolph wrote: On

RE: Ethernet cable: 2 versus 4 pairs.

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
On 12/14/2006, Daniel Roman wrote: I'd like to take this opportunity to point out the misuse of the RJ-45 name when really what is meant is an 8-position modular jack. RJ-45 refers to a specific T1 wiring scheme using an 8 position modular jack (8P4C). Similarly, we often see RJ-11 misused as

Re: China SRRC for 2.4GHz WLAN

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Thanks to a SRRC enigneer's help, your first question is confirmed. Please find the interpretation below.- Grace The current SRRC test standard reference, 无线电发射设备型号核准检测的检验依据(含参考标准), can be found at http://www.srrc.org.c /DataStore/InfoData/20069/632926986528750.doc

Re: PDA back lighting potential

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
usually a boost regulator, depending on the stack of LEDs may go up to 12 to 18 volts freq keep moving up, was around 1MHz now they're going around 8 to 10MHz, but very localized near the IC see Micrel's app notes - Robert - On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 09:36:56 -0600 Ken Javor

Re: PDA back lighting potential

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
In message c1ac11b8.4bf84%ken.ja...@emccompliance.com, dated Mon, 18 Dec 2006, Ken Javor ken.ja...@emccompliance.com writes I am evaluating a PDA-like device for EMI/explosive atmosphere usage. The device has what appears to be an LCD type display, which means it has back-lighting. While the

RE: PDA back lighting potential

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Ken, I think that your expectations from an EMI point of view are quite realistic and present no greater hazard or problem in the light of the explosive atmosphere. However, from the explosive atmosphere perspective, I would be very surprised if you could get a device like this certified as

Candle Flame Test specification

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
For those interested, I just received notice of the publication of IEC TS 62441, Accidentally caused candle flame ignition for audio/video, communication and information technology equipment Regards, Peter L. Tarver, PE ptar...@ieee.org CONFIDENTIALITY This e-mail message and any attachments

PDA back lighting potential

2006-12-18 Thread emc-p...@ieee.org
Forum Members, I am evaluating a PDA-like device for EMI/explosive atmosphere usage. The device has what appears to be an LCD type display, which means it has back-lighting. While the device runs off 4.2 Vdc batteries, which are deemed a safe potential, I expect that the back-light potential is