Re: [PSES] Why use an MOV?

2012-12-17 Thread Doug Powell
John, It appears 60936 may be withdrawn, try EN 132400. In any case, I believe filters are generally safety certified without use of MOVs, not mandatory. I have asked vendors to add these to a custom filter and to the requirements of other product standards such as EN 60950, EN 61010-1 or EN

Re: [PSES] Why use an MOV?

2012-12-17 Thread John Woodgate
In message 1064331955-1355731200-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-118760780 1-@b15.c21.bise6.blackberry, dated Mon, 17 Dec 2012, doug...@gmail.com writes: It appears 60936 may be withdrawn, try EN 132400. I think you have the wrong standard, it's 60939 (multi-part), not 60936

Re: [PSES] Why use an MOV?

2012-12-17 Thread Doug Powell
John, Sorry, typo. So now I'm not certain I understand what you are asking. Can you clarify? Doug Douglas E Powell http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 http://www.linkedin.com/in/dougp01 -Original Message- From: John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2012

Re: [PSES] Why use an MOV?

2012-12-17 Thread John Woodgate
In message 1260632493-1355749824-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-300668403 -@b15.c21.bise6.blackberry, dated Mon, 17 Dec 2012, doug...@gmail.com writes: So now I'm not certain I understand what you are asking. Can you clarify? Is there anything in the specifications of

Re: [PSES] Why use an MOV?

2012-12-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
Why use a MOV? This is a difficult subject for self and employer - both in terms of reliability and safety. Probably no other choice because most of my employer's stuff must operate in other than OV category 1 or 2. For MTBF or MTTF, there are several Arrhenius-based models where the basis is

Re: [PSES] UL 1699B where art thou

2012-12-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
I complained (ok, will admit that I whined) too soon, or the squeaky wheel gets oiled. The good people at UL said this in response to my formal query: The Second Issue of the UL 1699B Outline of Investigation is currently under development, and we anticipate its publication during the First

[PSES] Position Opening in OSHA's NRTL Program

2012-12-17 Thread Kevin Robinson
OSHA is currently seeking two experienced electrical engineers to work in its Nationally Recognized Testing Laboratory (NRTL) program. The incumbent would conduct in-depth onsite assessments of national and foreign laboratories seeking recognition as NRTLs, conduct in-depth audits of labs

[PSES] Standard or practical guide to grounding electrical products which are not permanently installed

2012-12-17 Thread Brian Ceresney
Dear Regulatory Experts, I'm searching for a standard or guideline which will provide detailed information about the internal grounding and bonding of products, and I've had limited luck in finding anything suiting my purpose. Reviewing a few CSA and UL standards hasn't been helpful.

Re: [PSES] Standard or practical guide to grounding electrical products which are not permanently installed

2012-12-17 Thread Brian Oconnell
Do not know why bonding materials/construction would not be in the scoped safety standard. My typical refs for reliable bonding construction requirements/suggestions are: 1. scoped safety standard for the equipment and/or end-use installation. 2. CSA design manual for the scoped standard(s). 3.

Re: [PSES] Standard or practical guide to grounding electrical products which are not permanently installed

2012-12-17 Thread Brian Ceresney
Thanks for your help, Brian. Unfortunately my two equipment standards are not very detailed, this product has no UL file yet, and my(out of date)copy of CSA 0.4 doesn't add much. Time to buy more standards! Could you explain the CSA design manual to me? I have never heard of a design manual