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, dated Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Nyffenegger, Dave
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they don't seem to understand what a critical components list is. I've
given them examples and not gotten very far so I was
Actually I wasn't just referring to their selection of components (in itself an
issue, they pretty much included the entire BOM) but the information in the
list. They haven't provided any of the NRTL mark info, critical tech specs, or
applicable standards the parts are certified to after
I have always viewed the Safety Critical Components List (SCCL) as kind of like
a Cheat Sheet or Road Map to a safety inspection. As probably most Safety
Inspectors, I wouldn't even think about starting a safety evaluation without
the SCCL up front. Otherwise, you would be crawling around
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, dated Fri, 14 Mar 2014, Nyffenegger, Dave
dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com writes:
They haven't provided any of the NRTL mark info, critical tech specs,
or applicable standards the parts are certified to after
Dear list members,
Being an independent testing facility, we have received a question from a
costumer regarding FCC classification.
The consumers product is a small portable device for use with a musical
instrument. When the product is used normally, it is attached to the
instrument by
Hello Niels,
Sorry to disappoint your customer but this is a computer peripheral.
They would connect it to their computer for updating software, etc.
Regardless of how rarely they do it
the fact is, they do it.
Its like a mobile phone, or a GPS Sat Nav., or a camera, etc. It is not
All of our parts are source controlled either by a drawing or specific
Manufacturer's and their specific part numbers. If no drawing, the
Manufacturer names and part numbers are loaded in SAP and can only be
added/changed by Engineering under ECO control. The purchasing department is
only
All makes perfect sense.
In the case of a project I have now which is not typical our outsource
manufacturer has already gone through the process of obtaining passing EMC and
safety reports from their independent agency in the US (who I won't name here
but is not an OSHA approved NRTL, they
In message 007001cf3f8e$5b16a3b0$1143eb10$@dk, dated Fri, 14 Mar 2014,
Niels Hougaard n...@bolls.dk writes:
? Is this product considered a ?Class B Computer Peripheral? ? which
require a DoC, and an accredited test report from an NVLAP accredited
test lab and appropriate FCC logo markings
In my opinion the customer's analysis is correct - and he's ultimately
responsible for the decision right or wrong.
I have had a similar experience. It was battery powered and could be
programmed at the factory through a USB hub - factory only customers can't use
the connection to program or
(who supposedly has been shipping CE marked product to EU on their own for
years with no issues)
Absence of proof of non-compliance is not proof of compliance
(or so what in short hand :) )
Whilst you're chasing the safety - compare built state subjected to EMC with
current build state.
HI Neils
Your client should understand that it is not his point of view that matters,
it is what the FCC says about the device and what they say needs to be done
in order for the device to be authorized. The simple fact that it can, at
any time, connect to a PC and download software makes this
From: Boštjan Glavič
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 01:01
Is anyone familiar if it is allowed to use a contactor
instead of circuit breaker in PV application to disconnect
inverter from the grid?
NEC in Article 690 does not specify it precisely.
What standard needs to comply this
An on-board header is much less an issue; connecting only the power pins
on a micro-USB connector eliminates data transfer as a defining capability.
Cortland Richmond
On 3/14/2014 12:08 PM, Dward wrote:
The simple fact that it can, at any time, connect to a PC and
download software makes
That's correct Cortland. If the USB is only used for charging (not data
transfer), then it does not count as a 'peripheral' and therefore
Verification as Digital Device can be used.
Michael.
Michael Derby
Regulatory Engineer
ACB Europe
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