Re: [PSES] Double Pole Mains Switches, Cord Connected Products

2017-01-28 Thread Richard Nute
Hi Mike: The standards require a “disconnect device.” Many manufacturers of cord-connected products define the plug as the disconnect device, which then allows a (functional, not a safeguard) single-pole mains switch. Also, many products do not have a physical mains switch such a

Re: [PSES] Double Pole Mains Switches, Cord Connected Products

2017-01-28 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
The general safety requirement for equipment is to be able to be `disconnected” ; a term for having no hazardous voltage inside. A disconnect device is any system within reach of the user that allows to disconnect the apparatus form all live voltage. That can be double pole switch, but also a

Re: [PSES] Double Pole Mains Switches, Cord Connected Products

2017-01-28 Thread Ted Eckert
Hello Mike, Single-pole switches are acceptable and typical on plug connected single-phase equipment and sometimes on two-phase equipment. IEC 60950-1 has the somewhat cryptic marking “Double Pole/Neutral Fusing” as indication to service personnel that there may still be live voltage in the equ

Re: [PSES] Double Pole Mains Switches, Cord Connected Products

2017-01-28 Thread John Woodgate
Those, too. I didn't say that the DP switch is a safety issue, it's a reliability or durability issue. When IEC/EN 60065 required DP switches on TVs, I pointed out the implications of a short-circuit, and proposed that the product's fuse be connected upstream of the switch. Although I was 'He

Re: [PSES] Double Pole Mains Switches, Cord Connected Products

2017-01-28 Thread John Allen
FWIW, the same applies to the 10/16A 2-pin plugs, most of which also reversible. However, there are some national exceptions, notably in Denmark, Switzerland & Italy which have some unique plug/socket combinations of their own – some of those are reversible and some are not. Not sure I ag

Re: [PSES] Double Pole Mains Switches, Cord Connected Products

2017-01-28 Thread John Woodgate
ALL European 2-pin 6 A plugs are reversible, and 3-contact plugs used on the Continent are reversible (there are two kinds, one with 2 power pins and side-contact for earth (called 'Schuko') and one with a third pin for earth). The standards you cite are written so that the product is safe, wh

[PSES] Double Pole Mains Switches, Cord Connected Products

2017-01-28 Thread Mike Sherman ----- Original Message -----
Because of the lack of polarization on many 2 pin European plugs, I have always recommended double pole mains switches on cord connected products for the EU market. However, I am not finding support for this in standards such as 60335-1, 60601-1 or 62368-1. Your thoughts will be appreciated, o

[PSES] EMC in Malaysia

2017-01-28 Thread Grace Lin
Dear Members, Does Malaysia mandate EMC requirements? If yes, is there any official document available? A quick Google search found "At present, for electromagnetic compatibility, there are not mandatory requirements in Malaysia." ( http://www.agc-cert.com/en/cert.php?cid=123&id=102). I don't k