Re: [PSES] rationale behind conducted immunity levels in EN 55035 / IEC 61000-4-6

2021-03-25 Thread Ken Javor
While I had nothing to do with any CISPR limit setting or test methods, it seems intuitively appealing that the 80 MHz demarcation between conducted and radiated immunity is based on the efficiency of the biconical antenna, or any similarly sized antenna: Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 From:

Re: [PSES] rationale behind conducted immunity levels in EN 55035 / IEC 61000-4-6

2021-03-25 Thread Ghery S. Pettit
Jeff, I’m not sure what the technical rationale was back when CISPR 24 was originally published (yes, the 3 V limit dates back to then) but as I recall the idea was that above 80 MHz you could generate a uniform field and below 80 MHz this was far more difficult. Why 80 MHz? Because it was

[PSES] 24 volt dimmable 60 to 100W FCC Part 15 Class B conducted emissions (CE) compliant?

2021-03-25 Thread Lee Hill
Hi everyone: It seems that there are lots of dimmable 24V LED power supplies out there, but the first 3 or 4 that we have looked at do not pass CE for various loading conditions. These are not simple 24V DC output supplies, these also have a two-terminal input port to accept a 0-10V analog or PWM

Re: [PSES] Adaptivity test for 5GHz access point

2021-03-25 Thread Chris
Thank You Charlie.Christopher On Thursday, March 25, 2021, 12:45:32 PM PDT, Charlie Blackham wrote: Chris EN 302 502 doesn’t require LBT – but is for Broadband Fixed Wireless Access (this doesn’t have to be “WiFi”, but often is)   Best regards Charlie   Charlie Blackham

Re: [PSES] Adaptivity test for 5GHz access point

2021-03-25 Thread Charlie Blackham
Chris EN 302 502 doesn’t require LBT – but is for Broadband Fixed Wireless Access (this doesn’t have to be “WiFi”, but often is) Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, number 0546624

Re: [PSES] Withdrawal of EN 55024:2010

2021-03-25 Thread Chris Brown
Thank you Charlie! This answers my question very well. Yes, 60950-1 to 62368-1 has been an 'adventure'. Chris Chris Brown Team Lead Compliance t 519-455-9675 - Ext 1380 t 800-265-1844 - Ext 1380 From: Charlie Blackham Sent: Thursday, March 25, 2021 3:30 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IE

Re: [PSES] Withdrawal of EN 55024:2010

2021-03-25 Thread Charlie Blackham
Chris EU Directives don’t require assessing (to new standards) to “remain compliant” - they require re-assessing to maintain a “Presumption of Conformity”. There is no grandfathering under CE marking as standards are only every optional (though that’s a narrow technicality to sit on for some di

Re: [PSES] Adaptivity test for 5GHz access point

2021-03-25 Thread Chris
Charlie, Yes we have both Master and slave devices. How about EN 302 502 does it require LBT? mostly we are in 5725-5850 MHz band due to higher EIRP. Regards Christopher On Thursday, March 25, 2021, 12:17:52 PM PDT, Charlie Blackham wrote: Christopher   EN 301 893 requires LBT to

[PSES] Withdrawal of EN 55024:2010

2021-03-25 Thread Chris Brown
FORWARD: In an Implementing Decision (EU) 2021/455 issued in mid-March, the Commission moved to replace the 2010 edition of EN 55024, Electromagnetic compatibility - Product family standard for audio, video, audio-visual and entertainment lighting control apparatus for professional use - Part 2:

Re: [PSES] Adaptivity test for 5GHz access point

2021-03-25 Thread Charlie Blackham
Christopher EN 301 893 requires LBT to meet the mandatory Adaptivity clause I’m assuming that you comply with DFS Slave only, as DFS master requires ability to detect, so is a form of LBT. I think the only bit of 5 GHz spectrum available to you is 5725-5875 MHz at 25 mW under EN 300 440. Some

Re: [PSES] rationale behind conducted immunity levels in EN 55035 / IEC 61000-4-6

2021-03-25 Thread Ken Javor
Not an answer, but one would expect some sort of correlation between the 61000-4-6 levels of 1, 3, and 10 V, and the 61000-4-3 levels of 1, 3, and 10 V/m. But I have asked for and never seen the derivation. Ken Javor Phone: (256) 650-5261 Hello all, I am looking for background information

Re: [PSES] rationale behind conducted immunity levels in EN 55035 / IEC 61000-4-6

2021-03-25 Thread Paasche, Dieter
The reduction on the level on radiated emissions might come from the CISPR 20, As you might know CIPSR 35 is a combination of CISPR 24 and CISPR 20. Sincerely, Dieter Paasche Senior Product Developer, Electrical CHRISTIE 809 Wellington Street North Kitchener, ON N2G 4Y7 Phone: 519-744-8005 ext.

Re: [PSES] rationale behind conducted immunity levels in EN 55035 / IEC 61000-4-6

2021-03-25 Thread Joe Randolph
Hi Jeff: Back in the days when people had ordinary telephones and AM radio stations were common, it was a “known thing” that cables near an AM radio transmitter could develop common mode voltages up to 3 Vrms. If the phone did not have perfect earth balance at the AM frequency, there would

[PSES] Adaptivity test for 5GHz access point

2021-03-25 Thread Chris
Folks, I have a 5GHz Wifi product that does not meet LBT conformanence. What ETSI certification can I pursue? Can we use EN 301 893 or EN 302 502 standards. We do however meet DFS requirements. Thank you for your feedback in advance. Regards Christopher - -

[PSES] rationale behind conducted immunity levels in EN 55035 / IEC 61000-4-6

2021-03-25 Thread Jeff Keyzer
Hello all, I am looking for background information on the rationale behind the conducted immunity test levels defined in EN 55035 / CISPR 35 and IEC 61000-4-6. Specifically, in 55035:2016 table 2, clause 2.1 calls for a test level of 3V rms from 0.15 to 10MHz. It also defines a slope that reduc