Re: [PSES] Hot surface sign

2021-05-26 Thread Scott Xe
Dear Charlie, Thanks for the useful information! I really discover such sign is commonly on MWOs, induction cookers, sandwich makers, etc. The document contains greater detail about this sign. Best regards, Scott On Thu, 27 May 2021 at 03:19, Charlie Blackham wrote: > Scott > > > > I’ve not

Re: [PSES] Hot surface sign

2021-05-26 Thread Wiseman, Joshua
I was part of the TC61 MT that did this work for the Commercial Cooking Equip. There are a number of zones called out, Non-functional hot surface and Adjacent surface. I recall there being at least one more term but it escapes me at the moment. Josh From: Charlie Blackham Sent: Wednesday, Ma

Re: [PSES] Hot surface sign

2021-05-26 Thread Douglas E Powell
I once informed an engineer he needed a hot surface label, because he exceeded the limit. After selecting an adhesive label, he asked how hot can it get if it's labeled. Tongue in cheek, I told him he could not melt or burn the label since it had to remain legible. -Doug Douglas E Powell Laport

Re: [PSES] Hot surface sign

2021-05-26 Thread Charlie Blackham
Scott I’ve not read it (44 pages) but EU LVD market enforcement did a report “Non-functional Hot Surfaces Project” https://ec.europa.eu/docsroom/documents/5263/attachments/1/translations Some standards, such as EN 60335-2-9 (Household and similar electrical appliances - Safety - Part 2-9: Part

Re: [PSES] Hot surface sign

2021-05-26 Thread Brian Kunde
Usually, high-temperature surface warning symbols are only required if the hazard is not obvious. So in ovens, stovetops, griddles, toasters, heat-sinks, etc. do not require them. However, if such appliances or device have areas that are hot but it is not obvious it is hot, a warning symbol might

Re: [PSES] What percentage of products pass first time?

2021-05-26 Thread Lfresearch Jose
Hi Chas, Sorry to be late to the table, always happens when there's no food on it ;-) Over the last 30 years in our lab it has varied. Starting out around when the CE mark first hit products tended to be noisy, but the circuits were running much slower the net result being a likelihood of failu

Re: [PSES] Basic Schematic Creation Software

2021-05-26 Thread Brian Kunde
Wow, I really like Dia. It has some nice features. Looks to be a handy program for a lot of different applications. I'll have to play around with this a bit. Thanks. The Other Brian On Thu, May 20, 2021 at 3:15 PM Patrick Lawler wrote: > Hi Brian, > > I wasn't aware of the 'Dia' software until

Re: [PSES] Hot surface sign

2021-05-26 Thread Wiseman, Joshua
Scott, At my previous employer we had the symbol stamped into the stainless steel of a part on the commercial griddle. A traditional label would not withstand the heat in this instance and with-it being part of the sheet metal it me all the cleaning and legibility requirements. It's hard to see

[PSES] Hot surface sign

2021-05-26 Thread Scott Xe
In some cooking appliances, there are some hot surfaces that may cause burn injury and safety standards suggest putting a hot surface sign to alert the users. - Is there any specific colour requirement? Common practice is black colour on yellow background or white colour on black background

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] What percentage of products pass first time?

2021-05-26 Thread Brian Kunde
I also concur with what has been posted by others. But I would like to inject one short commentary if I might. Traditionally, we have found that a large percentage of emissions failures are due to the over-the-counter peripherals and/or cables; a required part of the overall test system but somew

Re: [PSES] Shipping samples to UK

2021-05-26 Thread Charlie Blackham
Christopher Nothing has changed that affects shipment of samples for test and/or evaluation Just make it clear on the documentation as always Best regards Charlie Charlie Blackham Sulis Consultants Ltd Tel: +44 (0)7946 624317 Web: https://sulisconsultants.com/ Registered in England and Wales, nu