Re: [PSES] Safety: 60335-1 conflicting clauses question - earthing (or not) of handles

2023-04-05 Thread T.Sato
On Wed, 5 Apr 2023 11:23:03 +0100, "James Pawson (U3C)" wrote: > In running through some safety checks on a customer's product I've come > across what appears to be a conflict between two clauses. This resulted in > some head scratching! I'm sure it is my misunderstanding or misreading, but >

Re: [PSES] Question for FCC Part 18 RE test?

2023-04-05 Thread T.Sato
On Thu, 6 Apr 2023 11:32:20 +0900, Youngsik Kim wrote: > According to FCC part 18.305 FIELD STRENGTH LIMITS, a test article of Any > type unless otherwise specified has a measurement distance of 300 meters, > but I want to measure it at a distance of 3 meters because I need to > measure it in

Re: [PSES] Question for FCC Part 18 RE test?

2023-04-05 Thread Ken Javor
Not an expert on that standard, but technically speaking. If indeed both 300 meter and 3 meters are both in the far field of the transmitting antenna, then the scaling is as 20 log (distance ratio). That would yield a 40 dB relaxation, so your first answer is correct. I cannot think of a case

[PSES] Question for FCC Part 18 RE test?

2023-04-05 Thread Youngsik Kim
Hi Experts According to FCC part 18.305 FIELD STRENGTH LIMITS, a test article of Any type unless otherwise specified has a measurement distance of 300 meters, but I want to measure it at a distance of 3 meters because I need to measure it in a chamber. In this case, what is the limit at 3 meters?

Re: [PSES] Safety: 60335-1 conflicting clauses question - earthing (or not) of handles

2023-04-05 Thread Scott Aldous
I'm not an expert in that standard, but at first glance it looks to me like it makes a distinction between handles that are held or actuated in normal use vs handles that are *continuously* held in the hand in normal use. Similar to distinction made for surface temp limits in standards like 60950.

Re: [PSES] Safety: 60335-1 conflicting clauses question - earthing (or not) of handles

2023-04-05 Thread Ken Javor
I may be missing something but the way I read it they provide you with two different approaches to reducing the hazard of electric shock. One is protective earth grounding, and the other is double insulation, or double electrically isolated. These are mutually exclusive, being two different

Re: [PSES] Safety: 60335-1 conflicting clauses question - earthing (or not) of handles

2023-04-05 Thread Chas Grasso
How exactly does one measure "likely" as in likely to touch? Is it a %age? Of course my question is tongue in cheek... On Wed, Apr 5, 2023, 4:23 AM James Pawson (U3C) wrote: > * This message originated outside of DISH and was sent by: > ja...@unit3compliance.co.uk * >

[PSES] Safety: 60335-1 conflicting clauses question - earthing (or not) of handles

2023-04-05 Thread James Pawson (U3C)
Hello experts, In running through some safety checks on a customer's product I've come across what appears to be a conflict between two clauses. This resulted in some head scratching! I'm sure it is my misunderstanding or misreading, but I could do with some pointers in how to unpick this.