[PSES] "Morning with Doug" experiment session

2023-07-18 Thread doug emcesd.com
Hi All, I was thinking of doing a morning's presentation of just live experiments, no slides, just a series of live experiments that most engineers will find interesting, and may demonstrate that circuits and measurements do not always act like we think they do. Here is a proposed list: Experi

Re: [PSES] Lithium Button Cell Battery - NRTL markings

2023-07-18 Thread John Woodgate
I agree that your procedures are what is necessary. == Best wishes John Woodgate OOO-Own Opinions Only www.woodjohn.uk Rayleigh, Essex UK I hear, and I forget. I see, and I remember. I do, and I understand. Xunz

Re: [PSES] Lithium Button Cell Battery - NRTL markings

2023-07-18 Thread Bansi Patel
John: In this case I would ask manufacturer (thru your purchasing channel) regarding marking requirements agreed as a certification requirement from the UL. That should be condition of acceptability. Have that letter or document available at time of UL inspection. Other way, I handed was to as

Re: [PSES] Lithium Button Cell Battery - NRTL markings

2023-07-18 Thread IBM Ken
Hi John; Is this battery used in a higher-level product? Is your problem that a certifying agency won't complete the certification, or that the end product is already certified, but failing FUS/ inspections at the manufacturer because they can't verify the battery is UR? PS: When you say UR, are

Re: [PSES] Lithium Button Cell Battery - NRTL markings

2023-07-18 Thread Jim Bacher, WB8VSU
John, the original manufacturer is allowed to Mark the shipping box instead of the part. To buy the battery from someone else, that someone else needs to be a UL Recognized repackager. A repackager is allowed to break the cells into smaller boxes and Mark the smaller shipping boxes with the UL m

[PSES] Lithium Button Cell Battery - NRTL markings

2023-07-18 Thread John Allen
Hi guys, We are having a heck of time proving a button cell is actually UR - CR2354. UL IQ says it's UR. The Battery is not marked. The Guide Card allows the marking to be on "packaging". Our customer purchases the CR2354 on-line. The packaging it comes in is not marked. Is it possible the

Re: [PSES] Current Probe for Surge Immunity Calibration Validation

2023-07-18 Thread doug emcesd.com
I have found Fischer Custom Communication probes to be of the highest quality. I have found that with some other probes, significant E-field response is a problem, and you need to measure E-field response yourself. I have seen current probes with an E-field response as much as the intended H-fie

[PSES] Current Probe for Surge Immunity Calibration Validation

2023-07-18 Thread Brian Kunde
Greetings Everyone. To validate a Surge Immunity Generator and CDN, the IEC 61000-4-5 standard refers to a "Current Probe" for measuring the Short-Circuit Current. I wish to buy one. Can anyone recommend a model and supplier/manufacturer of a current probe that they like and will do a good job