[PSES] Seeking semi-rigid N cables for a HP/Agilent/Keysight 8546A EMI receiver

2024-01-11 Thread Sykes, Bob
I am trying to locate replacement semi-rigid cables cables for my old HP 8546A EMI Receiver. The HP/Agilent/Keysight part number is 85460-20036 but are no longer available from any source that I can find. These are the (3) cables with type N connectors joining the EMI receiver (top box) to th

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] ESD testing - Contact Mode to plated metal surfaces? - Thanks

2023-09-27 Thread Sykes, Bob
rge tip shall be applied to any coating not expressly declared as insulative" Could be wrong though. Brent DeWitt Milford, MA On 9/18/2023 7:39 PM, Ken Wyatt wrote: Always had the impression the sharp end of the CD tip was designed to punch through any coated metal. Kenneth Wyatt Woodlan

[PSES] ESD testing - Contact Mode to plated metal surfaces?

2023-09-18 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Experts, I have a question regarding the suitability of contact mode ESD testing to plated metal surfaces. I understand the wording in IEC 61000-4-2 regarding painted and bare metal. Does the same logic used for painted metal surfaces also apply to other coatings (anodized, plated, pa

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] RE: [PSES] FCC requirements for in-home BPL devies?

2021-01-26 Thread Sykes, Bob
getting easier. I will probably have to query the OET, and suspect some in-situ testing is in my future 😊 Thanks again, Bob Sykes From: n6...@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, January 26, 2021 2:11 PM To: Sykes, Bob ; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] RE: [PSES] FCC requirements for in

[PSES] FCC requirements for in-home BPL devies?

2021-01-26 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Experts, I am seeking information on Regulations and Test Methods for in-home Powerline Communication devices (Broadband over Powerline). Primary interest is U.S. (FCC) emissions. The requirements for Access BPL (as defined in FCC Part 15.3(t)) are well defined in 15.601, but for in-ho

[PSES] Keytek EMC Pro direct surge output question

2020-12-11 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Experts, I've been asked to perform data-line surge testing on shielded cables per EN 61000-4-5 (para. 7.6) My question is: Does anyone know if the Keytek EMC Pro surge generator has the 18uF capacitor (referenced in para 7.6 and 6.2.3 of the standard) built into the internal CDN? Thi

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Need help repairing log-spiral antenna

2020-12-10 Thread Sykes, Bob
I have a 3101 I purchased in the early '80s. There are no visible fasteners holding the back on. Can send pictures If needed. -Bob Sykes From: Ken Javor Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2020 6:40 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Need help repairing log-spiral ante

[PSES] engineers-turned-detectives have become heroes in the village of Aberhosan Wales

2020-09-22 Thread Sykes, Bob
Another EMC war story written for the general public, but interesting (to me) and certainly geek humor 😊 https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/22/uk/old-tv-breaks-broadband-village-scli-intl-gbr/index.html Please be advised that this email may contain confidential inform

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Currency requirements for FCC Part 15/ISED transmitter test reports

2020-06-30 Thread Sykes, Bob
M6u40WOOwTkxMPkuptVF59rrxSQyTOHeJSWKhwvPLxw97csLkJ-VYgytM-9X169tQ$> This communication and any attachment contain information from PCTEST Engineering Laboratory, LLC. and is intended for the exclusive use of the recipient(s) named above. From: Sykes, Bob mailto:bob.sy...@gilbarco

[PSES] Currency requirements for FCC Part 15/ISED transmitter test reports

2020-06-29 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Experts, I seem to recall that exists some sort of shelf life limitation on re-using FCC/ISED test reports for subsequent new Certifications. I am unable to find documentation of this in the FCC Rules or KBDs. Perhaps this is just for Canada? (I have a little more difficulty searchi

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] Low power FM or Am transmitter

2020-05-26 Thread Sykes, Bob
Hi Dieter, For FM you can exceed the 15.209 general limit of 150uV/meter @3m. See section 15.239. It allows 250uV/meter @3m. There are some bandwidth restrictions. No license required, but transmitter Certification is needed. -Bob Sykes From: Paasche, Dieter [mailto:dieter.paas...@christ

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] FCC regulatory statements

2019-11-01 Thread Sykes, Bob
The devil is in the details (FCC Rules Part 15.5). Comments below in [square brackets] are mine. (1)This device may not cause harmful interference…. [to licensed devices. Licensed devices are protected by the FCC Rules. The other less obvious meaning of this part of the label statement

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Reading or Limit Conversion?

2019-10-28 Thread Sykes, Bob
Also see the FCC Rules. Part 15.31 (f) has additional guidance. -Bob From: Charlie Blackham [mailto:char...@sulisconsultants.com] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2019 3:05 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] Reading or Limit Conversion? CAUTION: This email originated fr

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] Re: [PSES] EMI testing with ambient

2019-04-11 Thread Sykes, Bob
Also not rocket science or breaking news (to many). If you are measuring a CW NB signal in the presence of BB ambient, decreasing the Resolution Bandwidth of the EMI receiver will generally reduce ambient signal level while having negligible effect on the CW signal. Of course there are li

Re: [PSES] [EXTERNAL] [PSES] EMI testing with ambient

2019-04-11 Thread Sykes, Bob
Charles, See ANSI C63.4 Section 5.1.2 "Ambient radio noise and signals" (at least that is the section in the 2009 edition of C63.4.) -Bob Sykes From: Grasso, Charles [mailto:charles.gra...@dish.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 2:03 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [EXTERNAL] [PSES

[PSES] HP 8546A EMI Receiver - Looking for calibration facility

2018-10-23 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Experts, I just learned that Keysight has unceremoniously dropped calibration and repair support for the 8546A EMI receiver. It's an old beast, but we like it and use it a lot. Does anyone still use one of these and know of a facility (preferably U.S.) that can calibrate them? adTHANKS

Re: [PSES] Equipment EMI Issue

2018-09-27 Thread Sykes, Bob
Robert, Explain the FCC Rules to your customer and that while your equipment conforms to the technical requirements, that is not always sufficient to prevent interference in all cases. If their eyes haven't glazed over yet, you might explain the effect of source-to-victim separation distance.

[PSES] FCC tests & limits for In-House BPL-like devices

2016-02-29 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Experts, I am trying to determine FCC requirements for a system that uses technology similar to In-House BPL devices. The difference from BPL is that the data is not carried on AC power lines. Rather it may be carried on other unshielded, un-twisted wire pairs. It would be installed

Re: [PSES] 47 CFR Part 15 Subpart B / ICES-003 applicable/mandatory for an industrial personal computer?

2016-02-19 Thread Sykes, Bob
In addition to Mr. Ward's words of wisdom below, it is probably worth mentioning that a Class A digital device [as defined in Part 15.1(k)] aka "industrial computer" (which may be based on "PC" architecture) cannot take advantage of the "Declaration of Conformity" FCC Approval process(es). The

Re: [PSES] Complaint-Driven Immunity

2015-09-16 Thread Sykes, Bob
John Woodgate writes (in part): >Considerable weight is probably given to complaints from the emergency >services, because of their importance and because they are >probably well-founded, not lunatic. Yes, and not just emergency services... I want my MTV via 4G! The Cellular/mobile industry s

Re: [PSES] EMC Benign devices (was:RE: [PSES] Friday night conundrum)

2015-08-18 Thread Sykes, Bob
> Does anyone know how much power these cards draw. It's probably worth mentioning that there are different types of 'these cards' to consider. Smart Cards or Chip Cards usually mean those that have exposed contacts. RFID or Near Field Cards have internal circuitry as well as an embedded antenn

Re: [PSES] FCC EMI Test and Ferrites on Cables

2014-09-04 Thread Sykes, Bob
Scott, See FCC Part 15 - § 15.27 Special accessories -Bob Sykes -Original Message- From: Scott Douglas [mailto:sdouglas...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 2:31 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] FCC EMI Test and Ferrites on Cables Fellow List persons... Pl

[PSES] EMI measurement software in OATS environment

2014-08-05 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Experts, I am looking for recommendations/experiences relating to list based radiated emissions measurement software. This will be used in an OATS environment where trace based software does not work well due to ambient signals. I will be driving either a R&S or Keysight (aka Agilen

Re: [PSES] radiated emissions testing may understate actual emissions, an example using a class D stereo amp

2014-06-04 Thread Sykes, Bob
com] Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2014 2:12 PM To: Sykes, Bob; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] radiated emissions testing may understate actual emissions, an example using a class D stereo amp Bob I've always read it as being a "measurement distance". The FCC/CISPR limits ar

Re: [PSES] radiated emissions testing may understate actual emissions, an example using a class D stereo amp

2014-06-04 Thread Sykes, Bob
Charlie, FCC Class B "protection distance" is 3m, where Class A is 10m. This establishes their relationship. Class B = X dBuV measured at 3m, and Class A = X dBuV @ 10m. (where X = X) >EN 55022 Class B is for domestic environment which is "an environment where >the use of broadcast radio an

Re: [PSES] Ferrite on LAN Cable

2013-10-07 Thread Sykes, Bob
The KDB *supplements* the Part 15 Rules. I would start with Part 15.27. Also consider who is installing the equipment. Consumer or Professional? -Bob From: Bell, Chad [mailto:chad_b...@bose.com] Sent: Monday, October 07, 2013 9:54 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Ferrite on

[PSES] Automated testing to EN61000-4-6

2013-01-11 Thread Sykes, Bob
I am investigating purchasing test equipment to perform 61000-4-6 R.F. conducted immunity testing. There's lots of choices out there, and I see a couple of integrated, automated systems that look interesting (albeit at a price premium I'm sure). My questions are: Does anyone on this list use

[PSES] wireless approvals matrix

2012-11-01 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Experts, Some time ago a few members of this list compiled a list of global wireless approval requirements. Foolishly I did not save any emails containing the link to that document and now it would be extremely to me. It seems the list archives are not working, or the at least the link t

Re: [PSES] EC vs EU suffix

2012-08-17 Thread Sykes, Bob
CE = Check Everything or Compliance Expensive ...It's Friday -Bob -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Sundstrom, Michael Sent: Friday, August 17, 2012 8:45 AM To: Crane, Lauren; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] EC vs EU su

Re: [PSES] FCC Part 15 and ANSI C63.4

2012-02-06 Thread Sykes, Bob
them. Thanks, Bob Sykes From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Sykes, Bob Sent: Monday, January 30, 2012 1:32 PM To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: FCC Part 15 and ANSI C63.4 Worldly Experts, In preparing for an upcoming ISO audit and making sure my standards a

[PSES] FCC Part 15 and ANSI C63.4

2012-01-30 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Experts, In preparing for an upcoming ISO audit and making sure my standards are in order, I have uncovered some potential problems. I am currently using ANSI C63.4 2009. My basis for doing so is the November 2009 FCC Public Notice (DA 09-2478) clarifying use of C63 Measurement Standar

Re: [PSES] Average detector/s

2011-12-06 Thread Sykes, Bob
Here is an excerpt from an old (~1983) H.P. RF measurement presentation by Siegfried Linkwitz and Al Wilcox. // Average detection is provided in the spectrum analyzer by use of the video bandwidth filters. Video (post detection) filtering provides averaging of the higher frequency components (

RE: FM Modulator Information

2008-08-13 Thread Sykes, Bob
I wondered about this when I read the consent decree which has substantially the same wording that XM is sending out to owners of these radios. They don't really say how they might be non-compliant, but it seems logical to suspect the intentionally radiated signal is too loud. My radio has an int

RE: Difference between the HP 8566A and the HP 8566B

2003-11-25 Thread Sykes, Bob
We're getting close ;-) The frequency ranges are as Don states. The A or B versions of either analyzer will work with the 85650A QP adapter Only the B version (of either) will work with the 85685A Preselector. -Bob From: don_borow...@selinc.com [mailto:don_borow...@selinc.com] Sent: Tuesda

Old LectroMagnetics shielded enclosure

2001-11-12 Thread Sykes, Bob
Greetings, I have an old (circa 1986) LectroMagnetics shielded enclosure that I would like to modify. I'm looking for some parts and panels. It seems that LectroMagnetics (LMI inc.) are no longer around. Does anyone know if this product line (clamp together s.e.) has been taken over by another

134kHz transmitter in the U.K.

2001-09-19 Thread Sykes, Bob
Greetings, We are looking at providing a short range RFID system to the U.K., and I am tasked with determining the regulatory requirements for this system. It incorporates a low power transmitter/receiver operating at 134kHz. I am familiar with the LVD and EMCD requirements, but unable to dete

HP 8546A calibration facility

2001-05-22 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Compliance Experts, Can anyone recommend a calibration facility (besides Agilent) in the U.S. that can accommodate a HP 8546A EMI receiver? adTHANKSvance, -Bob --- This message is from the IEEE EMC Society Product Safety Technical Committee emc

RE: consumer electronics used on board aircraft

2001-01-25 Thread Sykes, Bob
For those interested, check out: http://www.avweb.com/newswire/news0039a.html (scroll down to "Cellphone Fails Flight Systems") http://www.avweb.com/newswire/news0020b.html (scroll to "British Study Says Airborne Cellphones Are A Problem") For the opposing (economic) spin see: http://www.avweb

Credence Technologies EM eye

2000-08-02 Thread Sykes, Bob
Worldly Compliance Experts, Does anyone here have any direct experience with RF/EMC products made by Credence Technologies? I am considering purchasing their EM EYE for use as a diagnostic tool. http://www.credencetech.com/emeye.html I have not seen or used this device, but it looks useful,