Re: [PSES] IT Servers and Brazil

Hi Peter, Yes many servers use= in Telecom applications require ANATEL approvals. Please send=me more details of your product and I will get you exact details >from mult=ple experts in Brazil. Scott Griggs Rua Rio Juquia,48 Bairro Sao Joaquim Vinhedo, SP, Brazil CEP 132800 +55 (19) 8314 3

IT Servers and Brazil

Dear Members, I have been getting conflicting information regarding Brazil Anatel requirements for IT servers. Any requirements? Thanks in advance Peter Merguerian Sent from my iPhone - This message is from the IEEE Product Safe

RE: EN 61000-4-2 ESD - Horizontal distance from HCP to test chamber walls

there may be one) to support that. Regards, Ing. Gert Gremmen, BSc g.grem...@cetest.nl <mailto:g.grem...@cetest.nl> www.cetest.nl Kiotoweg 363 3047 BG Rotterdam T 31(0)104152426 F 31(0)104154953 Before printing, think about the environment. Van: emc-p...@ie

EN 61000-4-2 ESD - Horizontal distance from HCP to test chamber walls

I've found specifications in the EN 61000-4-2:2009 ESD standard for * HCP size (1.6m x 0.8m) * Distance between EUT and walls of chamber (0.8m) * Height of HCP above GRP (0.8m) But there is nothing that I've seen (in pictures or words) that shows distance >from HCP to the walls of the chamber

high value resistors

Hi Everyone, I thought some of you might be interested in my latest blog over at http://circuitadvisor.com . The blog is right on the home page and discusses how resistors can act like capacitors. Two examples are given. Another example are the 470K bleed resistors on the IEC 61000-4-2 Horizontal

Re: SOT23 - 5 pin part with top marking as 'S1KJ'.

Bala, A device marked "S1K" would usually be an 800V, 1A diode. However, the usual package would be a 2-lead DO-214. It seems you have encountered something unusual. I am unable to find anything similar in my usual resources. Scott B. Lacey On 12 Aug 2011 at 19:51, Balasubramanian Krishnan wr

RE: OT: LinkedIn Pulls a Facebook and What You can do about it

They were set for me. They aren't anymore. Annoying, that's for certain. Ghery S. Pettit -Original Message----- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 7:32 AM To: Larry Still

RE: OT: LinkedIn Pulls a Facebook and What You can do about it

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SOT23 - 5 pin part with top marking as 'S1KJ'.

Dear All, There is an SOT23-5 chip with top body marking as 'S1KJ'. Is there any guidance possible from this forum to understand more about this chip. Bala ::DISCLAIMER:: ---

RE: OT: LinkedIn Pulls a Facebook and What You can do about it

John, I wonder if it is different for UK users, both of mine were checked. Larry Stillings Compliance Worldwide, Inc. -Original Message- From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 9:54 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: OT: Link

Re: OT: LinkedIn Pulls a Facebook and What You can do about it

In message , dated Fri, 12 Aug 2011, N.Shani writes: >Apparently LinkedIn has copied Facebook and automatically "opted-in its >100 million users into the social advertising program without informing >them of the change beyond a blog post". I looked to fix it but found that the tick box autho

OT: LinkedIn Pulls a Facebook and What You can do about it

Apparently LinkedIn has copied Facebook and automatically "opted-in its 100 million users into the social advertising program without informing them of the change beyond a blog post". The fix for this is here: http://news.y hoo.com/linkedin-opts-100-million-users sharing-private-information-050409

Re: Telematics Event in Brazil, September 19 2011

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RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

ot;Animal House".] Brian -----Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Pete Perkins Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:43 PM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3? PSNet, Well, in spite o

Re: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

In message , dated Thu, 11 Aug 2011, Brian Oconnell writes: >Probably not. 100W @5V cannot be used on in-wall materials specified in >NEC article 725. Electrician required according to most AHJ. > >In the EU and Australia, nothing of this DIY stuff is ever allowed. In UK, DIY electrical work i

RE: 100W from USB 3?

riginal Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Pete Perkins Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 8:43 PM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3? PSNet, Well, in spite of the skepticism noted in this th

RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

ant it for machine and instrument control stuff. This could open a new class of good stuff - the 61010-1 people should also watch this and TC66 and TC108 should hold a joint toga party (but with good ale). [For non-North Americans, refer to "Animal House".] Brian -Original Message- Fro

RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

PSNet, Well, in spite of the skepticism noted in this thread, this hearkens back several years to an EE friend who wanted to know when USB would be capable of 15W or more so that CFL bulbs could be directly driven from the port (this request should include LED lighting today). This USB ve

RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

this is covered. The high power USB will be spec/ designed for safe use and delivery of power. Leo Heiland -Original Message----- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Mike Cantwell Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 10:05 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject:

Re: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

> A computer that brews coffee... excellent!! > > -Original Message----- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Heiland, Leo J > Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:20 PM > To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: RE: [PSES

RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

A computer that brews coffee... excellent!! -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Heiland, Leo J Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 4:20 PM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3? I don&#

RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

I don't think you will find the same usage model for the new high power versions. Leo Heiland -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian Oconnell Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2011 2:12 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE:

RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

that meets ErP and CEC? After additional thought, very good stuff for data acquisition/instrument control systems. 100W power and hi-speed comm through single cable - I want it now. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent

Re: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

In message , dated Wed, 10 Aug 2011, "Heiland, Leo J" writes: >The new standard will require a new connector/cabling for the currents >involved and as the spec is developed more I think you will find this >is covered. The high power USB will be spec/ designed for safe use and >delivery of p

RE: 100W from USB 3?

a new connector/cabling for the currents involved and as the spec is developed more I think you will find this is covered. The high power USB will be spec/ designed for safe use and delivery of power. Leo Heiland -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of

RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

Hi Group: The new standard will require a new connector/cabling for the currents involved and as the spec is developed more I think you will find this is covered. The high power USB will be spec/ designed for safe use and delivery of power. Leo Heiland -Original Message- From: emc-p

Re: Beta Test

Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discussion list. To post a message to the list, send your e-mail to < <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> emc-p...@ieee.org> All emc-pstc postings are archived and searchable on the web at <http://product-complianc

RE: Beta Test

Hi Bob, The quantity limits are in 47 CFR 2.1204 . Beta testing will likely fall under (a)(3) as “testing and evaluation” to determine “su

Re: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

I agree with Gary. What I would appreciate more than 100W from the USB on my laptop is USB charging ports available in a hotel room so I don't have to carry around so many chargers. If this would sell more stuff then it might happen, but if it eliminates sales then it will probably never happen. S

Beta Test

Is there a limitation of the number of "beta tests" the FCC will allow for a product at a given time? I have looked at 2.803 (iv) and (v) and there does not appear to be any number involved. The key features appear to be that you cannot get money for it, it can't take place at a residential site, a

RE: [PSES] 100W from USB 3?

There was once a suggestion that the US patient office be closed since everything had been invented - but I'm not certain why I need 100W. I like the data rate and some small additional power for charging but I don't need to plug my hair dryer into my Ipad. Simple P=IE says that's about 20 amps at

RE: 100W from USB 3?

I see no issue as long as the USB standard is well thought out. We have 100 W of power through cables commonly from a desktop supply to a laptop computer, and we don't have an epidemic of melted cables. The open question is what voltage the USB group will settle on. It is unlikely they would con

100W from USB 3?

Does TC108 know about this? FWIW, there is also a slashdot thread on this. I like my periphials well-done with a side order of melted and flamed cable. Brian - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-

RE: [PSES] Regulatory Requirements for Tuner (Radio Broadcast Receiver)

Hi Grace, For Australia and New Zealand I believe you may have meant that there are no ‘radio’ type standards applicable to broadcast receivers. This is true so the only requirements would be safety and EMC (emission only). The standards would be: Safety – AS/NZS 60065 EMC – AS/NZS CIS

job openings in product regulatory approvals

Hello, Garmin is hiring in Kansas City, our largest R&D center. To view the job descriptions, go to http://www8.garmin.com/careers/index.html and click Search Jobs. Enter 11000FN or 11000DH in the “job number” field. Please forward to a colleague who is job hunting. Here is a site with some p

RE: Regulatory Requirements for Tuner (Radio Broadcast Receiver)

And in the future we will have a pair of standards that cover both receivers and ITE. CISPR 32 for emissions and CISPR 35 for immunity. Just don't ask me 'when'. :-) Ghery S. Pettit -Original Message----- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grass

RE: Regulatory Requirements for Tuner (Radio Broadcast Receiver)

In addition, however, ITE standards ARE applied to tuners that also contain ITE type interfaces (USB/Ethernet etc.) From: emc-p...@ieee.org [emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate [j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2011 6:55 AM To

Re: Regulatory Requirements for Tuner (Radio Broadcast Receiver)

In message , dated Tue, 9 Aug 2011, Grace Lin writes: >In EU, what is the directive(s) (EMCD and LVD?) and test standards >(EN55022 and EN60950-1?) applying to a tuner? >  >In Australia, Japan, Korea, and New Zealand, I believe the requirememts >for a tuner is similar to an ITE.  Please confi

Re: Regulatory Requirements for Tuner (Radio Broadcast Receiver)

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Regulatory Requirements for Tuner (Radio Broadcast Receiver)

Dear Members, I am asked to find out regulatory requirements (test standards, directive, equipment authorization, etc.) for a tuner worldwide. In the US, this is for FCC 15B verification. In EU, what is the directive(s) (EMCD and LVD?) and test standards (EN55022 and EN60950-1?) applying to

RE: [PSES] acoustic regulations for IT equipment in the EU

nt. But most of our products have furnaces & heat exchangers requiring large cooling fans and motors which are part of the function and there is only so much you can do about the noise. It has been a real challenge. The Other Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:

RE: [PSES] acoustic regulations for IT equipment in the EU

here is only so much you can do about the noise. It has been a real challenge. The Other Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Brian Oconnell Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 12:39 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] aco

Re: [PSES] acoustic regulations for IT equipment in the EU

In message <9be66bc0a99445adb49a0459149e0...@tamuracorp.com>, dated Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Brian Oconnell writes: >FWIW, OSHA says that 8 hours @90dB is ok. In machine shops, yes, but not in offices. You need to be able to hear yourself think. 55 dB A is about right; it would be very difficult to

Re: acoustic regulations for IT equipment in the EU

In message <162dbf66b3c14a33b8c9f948f8cf3...@tamuracorp.com>, dated Mon, 8 Aug 2011, Brian Oconnell writes: >Sound-level testing can become just as complex and expensive as the EMC >stuff. Stomp on this bug before it can reproduce. I agree: the results are so environment-dependent that a 'lab'

Re: [PSES] acoustic regulations for IT equipment in the EU

In message , dated Mon, 8 Aug 2011, "McInturff, Gary" writes: >Depending on the measurement technique it can be pretty expensive, but >you can still get a good idea of the anticipated readings in a very >quiet room with some relatively inexpensive sound level meters. The >formal methods are

RE: [PSES] acoustic regulations for IT equipment in the EU

, OSHA says that 8 hours @90dB is ok. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of McInturff, Gary Sent: Monday, August 08, 2011 9:17 AM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] acoustic regulations for IT

RE: [PSES] acoustic regulations for IT equipment in the EU

nt in the EU. F4s killed my hi-freq hearing, so bring on the fan noise - just do not care - let them hum. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 3:53 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: acoustic

RE: acoustic regulations for IT equipment in the EU

testing can become just as complex and expensive as the EMC stuff. Stomp on this bug before it can reproduce. Brian -Original Message- From: Parthasarathi Palai [mailto:ppa...@tejasnetworks.com] Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 7:40 AM To: oconne...@tamuracorp.com Cc: 'Knighten, Jim L

outdoor mains-48Vdc PSU compliant with 60950

Group Looking for mains-48Vdc PSU for outdoor installed equipment and client having trouble finding suitable PSU Does anyone know of an outdoor mains-48 Vdc PSU that meets IEC60950 creepage and clearance requirements (as either Class I or Class II) and is NRTL recognised? Regards Char

Re: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

Derek, The R&S ESU wasn't much different in price compared to the PMM with all the necessary clicks options. We also have an antique R&S receiver we were not using anymore that they were willing to give us a trade-in allowance for. While a recommendation from somebody that I respect is a good

RE: acoustic regulations for IT equipment in the EU

enviroment in the EU. F4s killed my hi-freq hearing, so bring on the fan noise - just do not care - let them hum. Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Knighten, Jim L Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 3:53 PM To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: acoustic

RE: acoustic regulations for IT equipment in the EU

Hi Jim, ISO 7779 is the international standard for noise measurement of information technology and telecommunications equipment, however I am not sure if it delineates specific environments. EN ISO 7779 is the EU version. Best regards, Ron From: Knight

acoustic regulations for IT equipment in the EU

Is there an acoustic environment standard in the EU that is appropriate for IT equipment in an office environment? Jim __ James L. Knighten, Ph.D. EMC Engineer Teradata Corporation 17095 Via Del Campo San Diego, CA 92127 858-485-2537 – phone 858-485-3788 – fax (unat

RE: Safety Label Adhesion specification

>From a small, warped mind: UL969 CSA No 0.15-M90 -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org]On Behalf Of lauren_cr...@amat.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 10:05 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Safety Label Adhesion specification Great Minds,

Safety Label Adhesion specification

Great Minds, Do any of you know of a standard which sets a minimum adhesion requirement for a safety label to a product, such as a minimum number of N/m per ASTM D 903? Regards, -- Lauren Crane (mr.) Product Regulatory Analyst | Corporate Product EHS | Applied Materials Office 512.272

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For those interested, this year's IEEE EMC symposium will be held in Long Beach, CA, from 8/14 to 8/19. We have a special EMC Consulting Toolkit Workshop session Friday afternoon, August 19th, with five independent consultants from the industry providing an inside look at this field. The topics sh

RE: Radiation Free Certificate

My experience in Saudi Arabia has been a difficult one on many occasions. There seems to be a difficulty in SA Customs/Authorities with the interpretation of requirements and standards. Regards, Mark From: Kunde, Brian [mailto:brian_ku...@lecotc.com] Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 8:58 A

RE: 2.4GHz Spread Spectrum Transmitter in Jordan

Hi Grace, This link may be of use to you. http://www.trc.gov.jo/index.php?option= om_content&task=view&id=885&Itemid=1132&lang=english Bob Sykes ________ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Friday, Augu

2.4GHz Spread Spectrum Transmitter in Jordan

Dear Members, Does anyone know of Jordan's requirements for 2.4 GHz spread spectrum transmitter, more specific: a 802.15.4 Zigbee transmitter? Is FCC 15C test report accepted? Is EN 300 328 test report accepted? Is certification required? Is modular approval accepted? Is in-country representati

Radiation Free Certificate

Here is a new one on me. We are trying to ship a piece of electronic equipment into Saudi Arabia and it is held up in Customs until we can supply a “Radiation free certificate issued by an Independent inspector as it is a Government requirement for customs clearance”. Has anyone run in

RE: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

, enough gain ahead of them, and shielded chambers, FFT may not be needed for a lot of things. But you do need to know how to set up the equipment. Cortland Richmond (writing only for me; not my employer) From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Grace Lin Sent: Wednesday

Re: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

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Re: JQA comments?

All Japan METI accredited labs accept CB reports as long as the Japanese standards are harmonized with the IEC. However Japan has also unique deviations which must also be addressed for PSE. CIG 023 follow up reports are not accepted. The METI accredited lab typically does a factory inspection to

Re: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

--- On Wed, 8/3/11, Grace Lin wrote: Most of spectrum analyzers, from my understanding, have no capability to measure click rate. R&S has a free download software, "Click Rate Analyzer", for its certain models of the EMI receivers wtih FFT option (a +$8,000 option). Grace

Re: C-tick fee's

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回复: [PSES] C-tick fee's

We did c-tick always by our distributor in Australia. We have our ODM supplier affix the c-tick logo and ACMA number on product rating label in origin of country. If we don't, our distributor still can use a separate sticker to affix product. I usually only have to give them CE-EMC report, distribu

Re: If a directive doesn't apply to your product, can you claim compliance?

In message , dated Thu, 4 Aug 2011, kevin.mccandl...@schneider-electric.com writes: >Although we use 60730-1 and 60730-2-14 as our safety standards and the >OJ lists them as harmonized standards which can be used for the >presumption of conformity to the LVD, is it right to do so In my opinio

If a directive doesn't apply to your product, can you claim compliance?

Experts, I am scrubbing an MRS, of a proposed product, for all the regulatory requirements. I am questioning the need to claim compliance to the LVD in our DoC. This product is a 24 Vac actuator which falls out of the scope of the LVD which is 50 -1000 Vac. Marketing wants this because our com

RE: C-tick fee's

<mailto:djumbdenst...@tycoint.com> From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 1:27 PM To: Jim Robson; McInturff, Gary; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Cc: Christopher Saleem Subject: C-tick fee's Just a little clarificat

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RE: C-tick fee's

sentative that holds your compliance folder. You will be given a registration number that you must put on the label with the C-Tick symbol. This link give you all of the information you need. http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD..PC/pc=PC_2796 Regards, Jim Robson _____

JQA comments?

Good People, Anyone ever use JQA for PSE or s-mark projects? Do they accept existing CIG audits and CB reports? Any releated comments? thanks, Brian - This message is from the IEEE Product Safety Engineering Society emc-pstc discus

RE: [PSES] C-tick fee's

96 Regards, Jim Robson ________ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of McInturff, Gary Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: C-tick fee's Can someone give me a rough idea of the application c

C-tick fee's

rds, Jim Robson ________ From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of McInturff, Gary Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: C-tick fee's Can someone give me a rough idea of the application costs for a C-Tick mar

RE: [PSES] C-tick fee's

Thanks Pete but I don't have an exact answer because we don't sell the product to the world. We custom design the product for them and we do the "grunt" work of compliance for them when they request it. That works well for both of us, but it does leave me in the dark about their sales markets and s

RE: [PSES] C-tick fee's

Gary, et al, I'm not sure at what level you are looking to set up C'. Will your company be working thru a single Au importer who can act as your agent or will you be using an independent agent to support several importers for your product? I'm working thru a C' projec

RE: C-tick fee's

all of the information you need. http://www.acma.gov.au/WEB/STANDARD..PC/pc=PC_2796 Regards, Jim Robson From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of McInturff, Gary Sent: Thursday, August 04, 2011 9:08 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG

C-tick fee's

Can someone give me a rough idea of the application costs for a C-Tick mark. I have standards appropriate EMC and CB safety data so assuming its as benign as I hope – what can I expect in costs, just a first order of merit figure for my budgetary purposes. If you have a rough number off the top of

The Precautionary Principle Explained

Can you please explain the Precautionary Principle? Yes. 1. You must not do anything new unless you can prove it's not dangerous. But it's impossible to prove a negative of that type. 2. OK, you have to prove that the probability of danger is extremely small. Then I'll conduct thousands of

RE: data tools for compliance people ?

Thanks to the (2) people who replied. Never mind - no interest. Do not fear the code monkey; fear the code. -Original Message- From: Brian Oconnell [mailto:oconne...@tamuracorp.com] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 3:36 PM To: 'emc-p...@ieee.org' Subject: data tools for complia

Re: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

In message <1312396958.9324.yahoomail...@web39603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>, dated Wed, 3 Aug 2011, Bill Owsley writes: >But come up with a new technology, one that has significant potential >for causing interference, and they are all over it.  For example >software defined radios But not PLT, it s

Re: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

Grace, The easiest free way is to ask via the KDB website. If what you want to do is outside the current rules they will tell you. To change the rules you need money time and a strong stomach. Part 1 of the Rules section C has the Rule making Procedures, starts with a Petition for Rulemaking L

Re: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

I've been told back when I did TCB work, if a spectrum holder/owner complains, they get attention, or if there are public complains, the FCC will look into it. If it can be demonstrated that there is a problem not already addressed by the regulations, they will consider it. To add an exempted d

Re: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

Hi Grace I was working at the FCC lab at the time (Mike is just a kid compared to me) and that's pretty much the thinking that was going on. best regards Tom Cokenias T.N. Cokenias Consulting P.O. Box 1086 El Granada CA 94018 On Aug 3, 2011, at 9:37 AM, Mike Violette wrote: Hi Grace,

Re: [PSES] Electrical design challenge

or, a device or an apparatus, under specified conditions without its steady-state temperature exceeding a specified value." -- IEV number 826-11-13 Brian -----Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org <mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org> ]On Behalf Of John Woodgate S

Re: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

Tom, Thank you very much for seconding Mike's comments. How easy/difficult to have FCC add exempted devices? How and where to start? Best regards, Grace 2011/8/3 Thomas Cokenias Hi Grace I was working at the FCC lab at the time (Mike is just a kid compared to me) and t

Re: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

In all the years of using household appliances, only the old vacuum cleaner motors had any noticeable effect - the TV over the air would get lots of "snow" scattered white noise on the signal. The water heater, and I have had tanks and instant on types, have relays that click seldom when not in

RE: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

ES] FCC Exempted Devices Sent by:emc-p...@ieee.org Hi Grace, Good to hear from you, too. I think the FCC exempted appliances because during the original incarnation of the Rules (Docket 20780 circa 1979—yes, I am dating myself) there was scant i

RE: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

Hi Grace, Good to hear from you, too. I think the FCC exempted appliances because during the original incarnation of the Rules (Docket 20780 circa 1979—yes, I am dating myself) there was scant idea that microprocessors would be so widely dispersed and installed in almost any device imaginab

RE: [PSES] Electrical design challenge

ity (US) maximum value of electric current which can be carried continuously by a conductor, a device or an apparatus, under specified conditions without its steady-state temperature exceeding a specified value." -- IEV number 826-11-13 Brian -----Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.or

Re: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

Good Morning, Mike, It is good to hear from you. I would like to share with you and members my findings/thoughts, based on some measurement I took lately. Turning on and off relays with 16A/heavy load (high current?) creates big spikes (clicks). The amplitude of the spikes does not compl

Re: [PSES] FCC Exempted Devices

The appliance manufacturers had an effective lobbying campaign when the rules were written! Mike Violette Washington Laboratories & American Certification Body mi...@wll.com +1 240 401 1388 On Aug 3, 2011, at 9:39 AM, Grace Lin wrote: Dear Members, Does anyone know

FCC Exempted Devices

Dear Members, Does anyone know the reason FCC exempts devices listed under FCC §15.103(d) as quoted below? “(d) A digital device utilized exclusively in an appliance, e.g., microwave over, dishwasher, clothes dryer, air conditioner (central or window), etc.” FCC KDB 772105 clarify the exem

Re: [PSES] Electrical design challenge

In message , dated Tue, 2 Aug 2011, ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com writes: >I see that the IEE Wiring Regulations IET Regulations now, aka BS7671 >use "current-carrying capacity" not the word "ampacity" we see in codes >here. Yes, this is a US English word that Brits have to learn. R

Re: [PSES] Electrical design challenge

at these points than the wire itself. (However, beware of coiled wire which acts like a bundle and can easily overheat even though the current is below rated ampacity of the wire.) Best regards, Richard Nute Product Safety Consultant Vancouver, Washington, USA > -Original Message- &g

RE: Electrical design challenge

. (However, beware of coiled wire which acts like a bundle and can easily overheat even though the current is below rated ampacity of the wire.) Best regards, Richard Nute Product Safety Consultant Vancouver, Washington, USA > -Original Message- > From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto

dilbert -> standards TC meeting

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RE: Electrical design challenge

with cable ties. It is like a miracle device for finding problem areas and the price is coming down on them. The Other Brian -Original Message- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 9:05 AM To: EMC-PSTC

Re: Electrical design challenge

In message <64D32EE8B9CBDD44963ACB076A5F6ABB01C4C6E4@Mailbox-Tech.lecotech.local>, dated Tue, 2 Aug 2011, "Kunde, Brian" writes: >You bring up a point which I have debated many times in the past. Since >the wire can handle more current in a fault condition than it is rated, >the only real way

RE: Electrical design challenge

condition. The Other Brian -Original Message----- From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Richard Nute Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 6:06 PM To: 'Ken Javor'; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: Electrical design challenge > The short circuit current w

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