Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value

2017-02-16 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
Eckert [mailto:07cf6ebeab9d-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org] Sent: Thursday 16 February 2017 21:49 To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value I see two problems with the proposed alarm system. First, the most common reason for accidental carbon monoxide intrusion i

Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value

2017-02-16 Thread IBM Ken
Hi Bob; In perspective (40,000 Americans died on the road in crashes last year) it sounds like engineering efforts might be better spent making vehicular traffic safer. Driving while interacting with technology seems to be an increasing problem that could be addressed with some effort (and legisla

Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value

2017-02-16 Thread Ted Eckert
16, 2017 12:07 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value Autonomously-controlled windows could be a significant hazard for some of the ‘normal’ operating conditions per NHTSA. A guestimate based on two previous submittals to VCA and other such bodies exceeds $80

Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value

2017-02-16 Thread IBM Ken
o:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > *Subject:* Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value > > > > Hi Bob- do you know what percentage of the 300 are accidental vs > intentional? > > > > Maybe instead of just alerting, the car should shut down upon reaching > some measured CO

Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value

2017-02-16 Thread Brian O'Connell
] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 11:50 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value Shutting down automatically while driving would not be good.  Just lower all the windows automatically. From: IBM Ken [mailto:ibm...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16

Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value

2017-02-16 Thread Robert Johnson
Ken, If the horn is continuously blowing in triplets, it is likely to prevent even intentional CO poisoning. There is no need to disable the car and risk traffic dangers. Time is not crucial, just blowing the horn is enough and may notify people at a distance like in a house. The numbers c

Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value

2017-02-16 Thread John Woodgate
vae in aeternum manent. From: Nyffenegger, Dave [mailto:dave.nyffeneg...@bhemail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 7:50 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value Shutting down automatically while driving would not be good. Just lower all the w

Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value

2017-02-16 Thread Nyffenegger, Dave
Shutting down automatically while driving would not be good. Just lower all the windows automatically. From: IBM Ken [mailto:ibm...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2017 2:38 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value Hi Bob- do you know what

Re: [PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value

2017-02-16 Thread IBM Ken
Hi Bob- do you know what percentage of the 300 are accidental vs intentional? Maybe instead of just alerting, the car should shut down upon reaching some measured CO limit. On Thu, Feb 16, 2017 at 2:29 PM, Robert Johnson wrote: > In the US we sell about 15 million cars/yr and have about 300 dea

[PSES] Carbon Monoxide - Death Value

2017-02-16 Thread Robert Johnson
In the US we sell about 15 million cars/yr and have about 300 deaths/yr from automotive carbon monoxide. Since DC power is available, the horn is available, packaging is not needed, installation can be integrated in the auto manufacturing, I estimate an auto CO detector would cost below $10/car