Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current

2022-02-03 Thread Richard Nute
o: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current Mike, et al, Thanx for mentioning my name; by now you should be able to tell the stories as we’ve talked thru these things before. From my experience, protection is primarily needed fo

Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current

2022-02-03 Thread Stultz, Mark
Many thanks to all for the great conversation on this. I've learned quite a bit! Mark Stultz From: MIKE SHERMAN Sent: Thursday, 3 February, 2022 3:48 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current CAUTION: This email originated from outside

Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current

2022-02-03 Thread Pete Perkins
Entropy ain’t what it used to be From: MIKE SHERMAN Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2022 12:48 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current Doug -- Thanks for mentioning this! Yes, I've seen these 30 mA RCDs or RCCBs before, but not an RCBO

Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current

2022-02-03 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Doug -- Thanks for mentioning this! Yes, I've seen these 30 mA RCDs or RCCBs before, but not an RCBO (confused? Google can explain these acronyms). I've even recommended these for large machinery. The ones we used had adjustable trip points up to 30 mA. Note that I recommended these for

Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current

2022-02-03 Thread Doug Nix
Hi Mark, I’ve seen mains filters used for 400 V 3 ph. 200A services with leakage currents close to 30 mA. Consider that RCBOs commonly used outside North America have a design trip current of 30 mA, so leakage currents above 30 mA will cause the RCBO to trip. None the less, these large leakage

Re: [PSES] Machinery Leakage Current

2022-02-02 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
Mark -- Interesting question! I would agree with 3.5 mA for cord and plug connected stationary equipment up to several HP. However, note that 8.2.6e) of 60204-1 describes cord and plug connected equipment with leakage above 10 mA. However, I think that a quite large piece of machinery that

[PSES] Machinery Leakage Current

2022-02-01 Thread Stultz, Mark
Hello, Is there a hard limit for leakage current for machinery in the EU? IEC 60204-1 provides instructions in clause 8.2.8 for "equipment having earth leakage currents higher than 10 mA". This seems quite high so we have applied the 3.5 mA limits for class 1 stationary equipment in IEC