Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-25 Thread scott . xe
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Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-24 Thread Paasche, Dieter
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Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-22 Thread scott . xe
outside the MD compliance. Regards, Scott -Original Message- From: Oliver Betz Sent: Wednesday, 19 January 2022 4:56 pm To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery? Dürrer Bernd wrote: (Annex II of the Machinery Directive point 4

Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-19 Thread Oliver Betz
Dürrer Bernd wrote: (Annex II of the Machinery Directive point 4) "a sentence expressly declaring that the machinery fulfils all the relevant provisions of this Directive and where appropriate, a similar sentence declaring the conformity with other Directives Correct. In my current

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2022-01-17 Thread Dürrer Bernd
treff: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery? [Sie erhalten nicht oft E-Mail von "list...@gmx.net". Weitere Informationen, warum dies wichtig ist, finden Sie unter "http://aka.ms/LearnAboutSenderIdentification;.] Hi all, the "Guide to application of the Mach

Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-17 Thread Douglas E Powell
I have had resistance to placing both directives on a single DoC. Mostly from strong proponents of the MD who believe that all equipment is under their control. It was the same people who told me that even a mechanical writing instrument such as a ball point pen is "machinery". It should be noted

Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-17 Thread Julia Curson
We have also had issues with Turkish customs interpretation of the Directives and it’s nice to know we are not alone. I’m curious now and hoping the knowledgable readership can explain, how does the law work in Turkey/ EU around these interpretations if they are off base? How do they get

Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-17 Thread Oliver Betz
Charlie Blackham wrote: The issue is that the legal bit stating that only the MD applies and not the LVD is in the MD (below) and not included in the list of exemptions in Annex II of the LVD 1.5. RISKS DUE TO OTHER HAZARDS 1.5.1. */Electricity supply/* Where machinery has an electricity

Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-17 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
While I pay close attention to the Guide, I am doubtful that going against its guidance to, in effect, over document, is sufficient to invalidate a DoC. I have not ever encountered resistance to listing both MSD and LVD---has anyone on this listserv? Mike Sherman > On 01/17/2022 10:54 AM

Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-17 Thread MIKE SHERMAN
In my opinion, the Guide is making too fine a distinction. I know that when I examine a DoC for electrically powered machinery, I expect to see both the MSD and LVD. This gives me some assurance that the manufacturer has considered both aspects. Also in my experience, Turkish customs sometimes

Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-17 Thread Charlie Blackham
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery? Other that the fact that the statement is "the manufacturer’s EC Declaration of conformity shall not refer to the LVD but to the MD".? My guess is that you could invalidate the DoC if you violate that r

Re: [PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-17 Thread Charles Grasso
Other that the fact that the statement is "the manufacturer’s EC Declaration of conformity *shall not* refer to the LVD but to the MD".? My guess is that you could invalidate the DoC if you violate that requirement. Chas On Mon, Jan 17, 2022 at 9:41 AM Oliver Betz wrote: > This message

[PSES] Notice about LVD compliance in a DoC for machinery?

2022-01-17 Thread Oliver Betz
Hi all, the "Guide to application of the Machinery Directive 2006/42/EC", Edition 2.2: https://ec.europa.eu/docsroom/documents/38022 states: "...Thus, whilst machinery with an electrical supply, which is not in any of the categories listed in Article 1(2) (k) of MD, shall fulfil the safety