Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-27 Thread ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen
amuracorp.com; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Onderwerp: RE: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD >> Opinions whether this is a 'respectable' test technique? << In my opinion, your technique legitimate. I observe that the entire world of ESD testing is centered around a defined stimulus

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-25 Thread Cortland Richmond
Humidified air is a very nice, slow discharge path; either a humidifier or a good "huff" from the mouth works well. Cortland Richmond On 4/24/2012 1853, Conway, Patrick wrote: This is a classic test problem. I've seen this several times. For this setup, there is no place for the charge to

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-25 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Wed, 25 Apr 2012, "McInturff, Gary" writes: How does the charge exceed the applied gun discharge. If I am at 4kV for example, the ungrounded equipment rises to 4kV until it's removed or disappointed, but how would another charge of the same level increase it. This take

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-25 Thread Conway, Patrick
2012 6:05 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD For automotive stuff (ISO10605), I have to be careful about bleeding charge after each iteration because test level = 25kV. I use a 470k Resistor attached in series with a short braid that is screwed into the ref

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-25 Thread Conway, Patrick
esday, April 24, 2012 6:05 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD For automotive stuff (ISO10605), I have to be careful about bleeding charge after each iteration because test level = 25kV. I use a 470k Resistor attached in series with a short braid that is screwe

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-25 Thread McInturff, Gary
. In my case the cable will work fine but all of a sudden I have a need to have this brush in my arsenal Gary -Original Message- From: Scott Douglas [mailto:sdoug...@radiusnorth.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 6:49 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety co

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-24 Thread Brent G DeWitt
does pretty well if you don't mind the stimulus! Brent DeWitt Milford, MA > -Original Message- > From: Scott Douglas [mailto:sdoug...@radiusnorth.net] > Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 9:49 PM > To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG > Subject: Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD &g

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-24 Thread Scott Douglas
; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD This is a classic test problem. I've seen this several times. For this setup, there is no place for the charge to dissipate between zaps. So, how to discharge between zaps? The easy answer is to briefly connect a strap from appa

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-24 Thread Brian Oconnell
.@ieee.org]On Behalf Of Conway, Patrick Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 3:53 PM To: McInturff, Gary; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: RE: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD This is a classic test problem. I've seen this several times. For this setup, there is no place for the charge to dissipate be

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-24 Thread Conway, Patrick
// Patrick From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 12:37 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD Given the implementation differences between US/Canada(?) and EU on the medical 60601-1 standa

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD - My copy of 61000-4-2 found its way back to my desk - I have the ESD question answer thanks.

2012-04-23 Thread McInturff, Gary
Gary From: McInturff, Gary [mailto:gary.mcintu...@esterline.com] Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 11:37 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD Given the implementation differences between US/Canada(?) and EU on the medical 60601-1 standards. EU the June, US June

Re: [PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-23 Thread John Woodgate
In message , dated Mon, 23 Apr 2012, "McInturff, Gary" writes: I have a component we tested on the normal 55024 directed ESD table for a table top mounted device. Worked fine, problem is that the customer places this on a large metallic roll around pedestal on rubber wheels. When they send

[PSES] Safety cost and ESD

2012-04-23 Thread McInturff, Gary
Given the implementation differences between US/Canada(?) and EU on the medical 60601-1 standards. EU the June, US June 2013. How are folks handling new products being introduced now or in the very near future? Just got a quote back and the US certifier wants to charge me twice once for the 2nd