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Sent: 28 March 2012 18:17
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question
Oh! This is getting interesting...
It was the exact pupose of my original
question. We kno
In message ,
dated Thu, 29 Mar 2012, "ce-test, qualified testing bv - Gert Gremmen"
writes:
I like your pragmatism, but to
what directive should you apply the ce mark then ?
Applying the ce mark without an applicable
directive is illegal and an economic crime.
I would invoke the Sanity Clau
Onderwerp: RE: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question
Why propose new documents when good old circular reasoning can solve the
problem. Especially if the real problem is not necessarily complying with the
directive but getting it past the customs folks. Being able to CE mark the
thing mak
Why propose new documents when good old circular reasoning can solve the
problem. Especially if the real problem is not necessarily complying with the
directive but getting it past the customs folks. Being able to CE mark the
thing makes that easier since they generally stop when they see the
In message
m>, dated Wed, 28 Mar 2012, "Crane, Lauren"
writes:
if something like a "declaration of purpose" should be included with
every shipment that would not otherwise have a "declaration of
conformity".
Are documents for this purpose already in common use by another name?
I recommen
f Of Crane,
Lauren
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 12:28 PM
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Subject: RE: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question
I've experienced this (customs reacting to what an import looks like
rather than what it is) a few times over my career. I'm beginning to
wonder i
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Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 2:10 PM
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question
In message <4f73476e.20...@matrox.com>, dated Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Martin
E. Cormier writes:
> My understanding, up to now, was that in that case,
In message <4f73476e.20...@matrox.com>, dated Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Martin
E. Cormier writes:
My understanding, up to now, was that in that case, the final
manufacturer is responsible of declaring its product compliant. He
would be putting the CE marking on the complete product. But do the
add
In message
m>, dated Wed, 28 Mar 2012, "Crane, Lauren"
writes:
It seems possible the x-cap and relay manufacturer could be CE marking
for the RoHS-2 Directive particularly if the items are offered for sale
to "anyone" out of a catalog. The Commission has yet to issue guidance
as to whether
o:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Crane, Lauren
Verzonden: woensdag 28 maart 2012 19:34
Aan: Martin E. Cormier; EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Onderwerp: RE: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question
Here is relevant guidance from the revised Commission guide to the EMC
directive. "plug-in"
Martin et al,
You ask a very good question here...
There has always been confusion on this subject.
Unfortunately, the folks who developed the CE marking scheme didn't
have enough experience with how equipment is built up from component pieces
sources all over the world
for
play.
Regards,
Lauren
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From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 11:44 AM
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In message , dated Wed,
28 Mar 2012, Brian Oconnell writes
Ron
-Original Message-
From: Martin E. Cormier [mailto:mcorm...@matrox.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2012 10:17 AM
To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG
Subject: Re: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question
Oh! This is getting interesting...
It was the exact pupose of my original question
nsible for compliance with applicable
directives
Regards
Charlie
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From: Martin E. Cormier [mailto:mcorm...@matrox.com]
Sent: 28 March 2012 18:17
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question
Oh! This is getting interestin
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Subject: Re: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question
Oh! This is getting interesting...
It was the exact pupose of my original question. We know that our
"regular" products, i.e. the ones that may be put directly into market,
have to be CE marked. But in this case, w
.@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] Namens Martin E. Cormier
Verzonden: woensdag 28 maart 2012 16:50
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Onderwerp: Re: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question
Thanks to everyone for their inputs, and they confirm the feeling I
had. It just seems scary to me to try and pass cu
: [PSES] Shipping into Europe - Basic question
Thanks to everyone for their inputs, and they confirm the feeling I
had. It just seems scary to me to try and pass customs with a pallet of
"PC Add-in boards" that don't bear the CE logo.
The products are not in a seperate housin
In message , dated Wed,
28 Mar 2012, Brian Oconnell writes:
I am looking at an x-cap that is marked with 'CE'.
Wrong.
I am looking at a relay that is marked 'CE'.
If it's a 'simple' relay (how would one know?) ..wrong.
I am looking at my mu-metal brain shield - no CE mark.
Correct: t
I am looking at an x-cap that is marked with 'CE'. I am looking at a relay
that is marked 'CE'. I am looking at my mu-metal brain shield - no CE mark.
Note that my Bugs Bunny tie, that was purchased in Europe, did not bear the
CE mark on packaging or the end item.
The people in the European part o
Thanks to everyone for their inputs, and they confirm the feeling I
had. It just seems scary to me to try and pass customs with a pallet of
"PC Add-in boards" that don't bear the CE logo.
The products are not in a seperate housing, but could be compared to
graphics adapters. They will not be
In message <4f73067b.4040...@matrox.com>, dated Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Martin
E. Cormier writes:
If a non-European manufacturer wants to ship products to Europe,
exclusively to another manufacturer/integrator, who will then put the
products onto the market, after integrating them in a complete sys
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Hello everyone,
This will seem to many as a very basic question, but I am having a hard time
finding clear information on this:
If a non-European manufacturer wan
Martin,
A couple of things come to mind about this they are :
If the product is classified as a component / sub-assembly and not to be used
by the end user there is no need for a CE mark under the EMC Directive.
If a finished appliance is intended exclusively for an industrial assembly
operatio
Hello everyone,
This will seem to many as a very basic question, but I am having a hard
time finding clear information on this:
If a non-European manufacturer wants to ship products to Europe,
exclusively to another manufacturer/integrator, who will then put the
products onto the market, aft
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