Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-12 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
McDiarmid | Schneider Electric | Solar Business | CANADA | Regulatory Compliance Engineering From: Pete Perkins 0061f3f32d0c-dmarc-requ...@ieee.org To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 08/08/2014 05:47 PM Subject: Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter Peter

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-08 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Dear Rich, dear Doug Thank you very much for your professional answer. I really appreciate it. It helps me a lot and also to my client. One more question, is there any expert in this group who has real experience with new Hazard Based Standard IEC 62368-1? We are currently working on few

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-08 Thread Doug Powell
@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Boštjan Glavič Subject: Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter Dear Rich, dear Doug Thank you very much for your professional answer. I really appreciate it. It helps me a lot and also to my client. One more question, is there any expert in this group who has real

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-08 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Sent: Friday, August 8, 2014 8:51 AM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORGmailto:EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Reply To: Boštjan Glavič Subject: Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter Dear Rich, dear Doug Thank you very much for your professional answer. I really appreciate it. It helps me a lot

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-08 Thread Richard Nute
Dear Boštjan: I participated in most of the drafting of IEC 62368-1. Please feel free to ask questions. So did Pete Perkins. I don't know if others also subscribe to this group. Best regards, Rich On 8/8/2014 7:51 AM, Boštjan Glavič wrote: Dear Rich, dear Doug Thank you very much for

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-08 Thread McDiarmid, Ralph
Compliance Engineering From: John Woodgate j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG, Date: 08/06/2014 01:53 PM Subject: Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter In message 53e28a32.4020...@ieee.org, dated Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org writes: . Your solar

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-08 Thread Peter Tarver
IEC 62109-1 considers “PV circuits in general” to be OVCII. Regards, Peter Tarver *From:* McDiarmid, Ralph [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider-electric.com] *Sent:* Friday, August 08, 2014 13:57 *To:* EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG *Subject:* Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter My

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-08 Thread Pete Perkins
...@enphaseenergy.com] Sent: Friday, August 08, 2014 3:47 PM To: EMC-PSTC@LISTSERV.IEEE.ORG Subject: Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter IEC 62109-1 considers “PV circuits in general” to be OVCII. Regards, Peter Tarver From: McDiarmid, Ralph [mailto:ralph.mcdiar...@schneider

[PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-06 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Dear experts, I am trying to figure out how to determine correct spacings for non-isolated inverter. According UL1741 OVC IV needs to be considered for inverter. From table 8.1 from UL840 I get a transients of 8,0kV for 450VDC input. Is that correct? Output of inverter is connected to AC grid

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-06 Thread Richard Nute
Dear Boštjan: Despite UL1741 and UL 840, OVC does not apply to DC. There is no research that I know of that supports use of AC OVC to DC. If the 450 V DC is not outside the building or is otherwise not subject to lightning-caused overvoltages, OVC does not apply. Likewise, if the 450 V DC

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-06 Thread Boštjan Glavič
Dear Rich, Thank you. DC input comes from solar cells therefore from outside. UL 1741 states that OVC IV needs to be used and for 120/240V it means 4000V. So what transient should I use from DC side? Why table 8.1 in UL840 also mentions dc input? Best regards, Bostjan Boštjan Glavič Vodja

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-06 Thread Doug Powell
Bostjan, Even though PV array can be subject to lightning strikes, to my knowledge there is no specific requirement for OV transients occurring on the DC side of your inverter. This leaves you in a bit of a quandary fro spacings determination on the DC side, especially if you have no transformer

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-06 Thread Richard Nute
Dear Boštjan: If the solar cells are hit by lightning, then the DC and inverter system will likely be destroyed, and the transient will propagate into the AC system. There is no way to protect against a direct lightning strike except to use a system of lightning rods, and they may not provide

Re: [PSES] question with regard of inverter

2014-08-06 Thread John Woodgate
In message 53e28a32.4020...@ieee.org, dated Wed, 6 Aug 2014, Richard Nute ri...@ieee.org writes: .  Your solar cell DC source is not subject to load switching, but is subject to a direct lightning strike.  Your DC OVC due to load switching is zero, and your OVC due to lightning is beyond OVC