CE without LVD (Thank You)

2003-06-30 Thread Cereceres, David
It never seizes to amaze me the amount and depth of knowledge this group holds. Even though the future plan of the LVD was not the original topic, all of your responses on this subject were very informative. Again, thank you, David Cereceres Safety Engineer Pelco This message is from the IEEE

re: CE without LVD?

2003-06-30 Thread richhug...@aol.com
John, Ah! but there is such a thing as information overload! Richard From: john.al...@era.co.uk [mailto:john.al...@era.co.uk] Sent: Monday, June 30, 2003 12:20 PM To: richhug...@aol.com; nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE without LVD? Richard

RE: CE without LVD?

2003-06-30 Thread John Allen
[mailto:richhug...@aol.com] Sent: 30 June 2003 13:22 To: john.al...@era.co.uk; nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: CE without LVD? John, If proof were needed that one branch of the Commission doesn't know what the other branch is doing then [COM(2003) 252 Final

Re: CE without LVD?

2003-06-30 Thread richhug...@aol.com
John, If proof were needed that one branch of the Commission doesn't know what the other branch is doing then [COM(2003) 252 Final, of 12 May 2003] is it. All I can say is that many times now I have sat in rooms in Brussels with the European Commission; the DTI and their counterparts in other

Re: CE without LVD?

2003-06-28 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that drcuthb...@micron.com wrote (in E6F64B42266D6 54b80a0f7f4b98212a50ec...@ntxboimbx03.micron.com) about 'CE without LVD?' on Fri, 27 Jun 2003: Yes I once had a device that was SELV and this caused some confusion. We designed it to meet EN61010 as it was a piece of lab

re: CE without LVD?

2003-06-28 Thread richhug...@aol.com
! Richard Hughes Safety Answers Ltd. From: nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:43 PM To: dcerece...@pelco.com Cc: ri...@sdd.hp.com; david.gelf...@memotec.com; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE without LVD? The removal

RE: CE without LVD?

2003-06-28 Thread Nick Williams
The removal of the lower voltage limits from the definition of the LVD scope is not yet a 'done deal'. In particular, the official UK position is that the costs to industry which would result from this change would outweigh the benefits and so our current position (as of 30 May 2003) is that

Re: CE without LVD?

2003-06-28 Thread Rich Nute
Hi David: In regards to your suggestions below, would it not be wise to take into consideration the future plans of the LVD? The original question was specific to the LVD. My response was specific to the LVD. You raise a new question with regard to a future EU directive, the

RE: CE without LVD?

2003-06-27 Thread Tyra, John
I also heard the future incarnation of the LVD will start at 0V From: Cereceres, David [mailto:dcerece...@pelco.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 1:27 PM To: 'Rich Nute'; david.gelf...@memotec.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: CE without LVD? Mr. Nute

RE: CE without LVD?

2003-06-27 Thread Cereceres, David
: Rich Nute [mailto:ri...@sdd.hp.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 9:00 AM To: david.gelf...@memotec.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject:Re: CE without LVD? Hi David: It is being suggested that this product does not need safety testing and does not need

Re: CE without LVD?

2003-06-27 Thread Ronald R. Wellman
Hello David, Your issue is not new. I have been in a similar situation where the same argument was made for a product powered by SELV. However, EN 60950 addresses other safety issues with products other than electrically caused fire and electrical shock. One needs to also address the

Re: CE without LVD?

2003-06-27 Thread John Woodgate
I read in !emc-pstc that David Gelfand david.gelf...@memotec.com wrote (in db3b83f22a576e41983ea8bfa15af2f30577d...@mtlex01.nexxlink.int) about 'CE without LVD?' on Fri, 27 Jun 2003: A ITE product (not ours!) is powered by an CE marked external ac-dc power supply and has only SELV ports. I

SV: CE without LVD?

2003-06-27 Thread am...@westin-emission.no
directive. Amund, Oslo/Norway -Opprinnelig melding- Fra: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]På vegne av David Gelfand Sendt: 27. juni 2003 16:20 Til: EMC List Emne: CE without LVD? Hello Group, A ITE product (not ours!) is powered

RE: CE without LVD?

2003-06-27 Thread Nick Williams
...@memotec.com] Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:20 AM To: EMC List Subject: CE without LVD? Hello Group, A ITE product (not ours!) is powered by an CE marked external ac-dc power supply and has only SELV ports. I believe this product must be tested to EN 60950, and that in the CE Declaration

Re: CE without LVD?

2003-06-27 Thread Rich Nute
Hi David: It is being suggested that this product does not need safety testing and does not need to include the reference to EN 60950 and the LVD in the CE DoC, since it is SELV circuits only. The LVD applies to products with voltage ratings between 50 and 1000 V ac and between

CE without LVD?

2003-06-27 Thread David Gelfand
Hello Group, A ITE product (not ours!) is powered by an CE marked external ac-dc power supply and has only SELV ports. I believe this product must be tested to EN 60950, and that in the CE Declaration of Conformity it must declare conformity to the LVD via EN 60590. It is being suggested