I read in !emc-pstc that Gregg Kervill gr...@test4safety.com wrote (in
004201c2a2cb$92934120$7100a8c0@MENHADEN) about 'Location of CE DoCs -
electronic copies' on Fri, 13 Dec 2002:
I think one of us may have missed or failed to see the point - John, you
seem to have disagreed with what I wrote
...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of John Woodgate
Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 5:00 AM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
I read in !emc-pstc that Gregg Kervill gr...@test4safety.com wrote (in
004901c2a1ee$e45d66d0$7100a8c0@MENHADEN) about
I read in !emc-pstc that Gregg Kervill gr...@test4safety.com wrote (in
004901c2a1ee$e45d66d0$7100a8c0@MENHADEN) about 'Location of CE DoCs -
electronic copies' on Thu, 12 Dec 2002:
There is a problem with ..the reader is guaranteed to get the latest
revision as stored in our Document Control
...@test4safety.com; Chris Maxwell; Nick Williams; Stephen Irving
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
I'm not sure why you confuse information gathering and (maybe
particularly) quality with paper storage or electronic storage.
The reader
'
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
There is a problem with ..the reader is guaranteed to get the latest
revision as stored in our Document Control system.
The latest drawing has NO RELEVANCE WHATEVER to the CE Marking File. What we
of CE DoCs - electronic copies
There is a problem with ..the reader is guaranteed to get the latest revision
as stored in our Document Control system.
The advice I offer is focus on the principles - reduce risk - reduce liability
- preserve evidence - aim for Quality don't design down
Williams; Stephen Irving
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
Gary,
I'm with you on this one. I consider electronic availability to be equal
to, if not superior to, having the documents on European Soil.
My feeling is that: as long
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-Original Message-
From: Gregg Kervill [SMTP:gr...@test4safety.com]
Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 5:25 PM
To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs
I read in !emc-pstc that Nick Williams nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk
wrote (in a05111b00ba1d7495884b@[192.168.1.20]) about 'Location of CE
DoCs - electronic copies' on Wed, 11 Dec 2002:
Whereas it is essential that, before issuing an EC declaration of
conformity, the manufacturer or his
I read in !emc-pstc that Richard Hughes rehug...@nortelnetworks.com
wrote (in 6b78f2524cd7d5118a0402204840075b02795...@zhard0jc.europe.nort
el.com) about 'Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies' on Wed, 11 Dec
2002:
and guess what, neither
CENELEC, CEN or ETSI play any part in it.
The bodies
I read in !emc-pstc that Gregg Kervill gr...@test4safety.com wrote (in
000601c2a164$21f45f20$7100a8c0@MENHADEN) about 'Location of CE DoCs -
electronic copies' on Wed, 11 Dec 2002:
What happens to the responsible person who is under a legal obligation to
make the test data and evidence upon
December 2002 00:12
To: Stephen Irving
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: Location of CE DoCs
These are indeed rumors. Different Directives have different
requirements in this regard, and although the general rules of thumb
that documentation should be kept in the EU and a copy of the DofC
The Machinery Directive says:
Whereas it is essential that, before issuing an EC declaration of
conformity, the manufacturer or his authorised representative
established in the Community should provide a technical construction
file; whereas it is not, however, essential that all
; Nick Williams; Stephen Irving
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
Gary,
I'm with you on this one. I consider electronic availability to be equal
to, if not superior to, having the documents on European Soil.
My feeling is that: as long
Electronic copies versus electronic copies.
As I see it the issues are
ONE-
If you scan the document and store them on CDROM then there is no problem
restoring them. EXCELLENT IDEA.
But if the data is linked to a LIVE drawing system than this could
-Original Message-
From: Hans Mellberg
To: Richard Hughes; 'Nick Williams'; Stephen Irving
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Sent: 12/11/2002 12:20 PM
Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs
But if you analyze the grammatical construction of :
and he or his authorised representative established
I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Maxwell chris.maxw...@nettest.com wrote
(in 83d652574e7af740873674f9fc12dbaaf7e...@utexh1w2.gnnettest.com)
about 'Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies' on Wed, 11 Dec 2002:
Of course, these are just my opinions and interpretations. I haven't had to
tell them
Has anyone on this list ever had an authority ask to see a DoC or TCF after
the product was placed on the market? We have had two products audit tested,
but no one has ever asked for these documents.
Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International
The old requirement that copies of technical files be maintained at some
physical location within the EU is essentially unenforceable. As John Woodgate
pointed out, newer Directives do not incorporate that wording.
To my knowledge, the only entities in the EU that have the legal authority to
: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
Does electronic storage of the documents make any difference? The DoC,
the test reports, BOM's, drawings and Design verification tests are all
stored electronically and can be dumped from any printer in the world.
Obviously, they would have
[mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk]
Sent: 11 December 2002 00:12
To: Stephen Irving
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: Location of CE DoCs
These are indeed rumors. Different Directives have different
requirements in this regard, and although the general rules of thumb
that documentation
I read in !emc-pstc that Gary McInturff Gary.McInturff@worldwidepackets
.com wrote (in 917063bab0ddb043af5faa73c7a835d40ac...@windlord.wwp.com
) about 'Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies' on Wed, 11 Dec 2002:
Does electronic storage of the documents make any difference? The DoC
Does electronic storage of the documents make any difference? The DoC,
the test reports, BOM's, drawings and Design verification tests are all stored
electronically and can be dumped from any printer in the world. Obviously, they
would have electronic signatures.
Gary
-Original Message-
From: Nick Williams [mailto:nick.willi...@conformance.co.uk]
Sent: 11 December 2002 00:12
To: Stephen Irving
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: Re: Location of CE DoCs
These are indeed rumors. Different Directives have different
requirements in this regard
I read in !emc-pstc that lcr...@tuvam.com wrote (in 3187EE460C488A458D4
dc186f40edc2101d00...@exchdan.us.tuvworld.com) about 'Location of CE
DoCs' on Tue, 10 Dec 2002:
For the Low Voltage Directive the manufactuture must keep the technical
documentation on community territory.
That's
These are indeed rumors. Different Directives have different
requirements in this regard, and although the general rules of thumb
that documentation should be kept in the EU and a copy of the DofC
should be supplied with the product provide a good working basis for
compliance with the
I read in !emc-pstc that Stephen Irving sirv...@lutron.com wrote (in
sdf60a72@mailgate.lutron.com) about 'Location of CE DoCs' on Tue,
10 Dec 2002:
I know that the DoC and TCF need to be stored somewhere on European soil.
Where did you get that from? All that is required, AFAIK
Subject: Location of CE DoCs
Hi everyone!
I have been hearing a few rumors regarding the requirements for the
location of CE Declarations of Conformity, and I am hoping you can help
me clear it up.
I know that the DoC and TCF need to be stored somewhere on European
soil. Beyond
Hi everyone!
I have been hearing a few rumors regarding the requirements for the location of
CE Declarations of Conformity, and I am hoping you can help me clear it up.
I know that the DoC and TCF need to be stored somewhere on European soil.
Beyond this, are there any further requirements for
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