I read in !emc-pstc that Gregg Kervill wrote (in
<004201c2a2cb$92934120$7100a8c0@MENHADEN>) about 'Location of CE DoCs -
electronic copies' on Fri, 13 Dec 2002:
>I think one of us may have missed or failed to see the point - John, you
>seem to have disagreed with what I
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Subject: Re: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
I read in !emc-pstc that Gregg Kervill wrote (in
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I read in !emc-pstc that Gregg Kervill wrote (in
<004901c2a1ee$e45d66d0$7100a8c0@MENHADEN>) about 'Location of CE DoCs -
electronic copies' on Thu, 12 Dec 2002:
>There is a problem with "..the reader is guaranteed to get the latest
>revision as stored in our Documen
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Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
Gary,
I'm with you on this one. I consider electronic availability to be equal
to, if not superior to, having t
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Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
I'm not sure why you confuse information gathering and (maybe
particularly) quality with paper storage or electronic storage.
The reader
I read in !emc-pstc that Nick Williams
wrote (in ) about 'Location of CE
DoCs - electronic copies' on Wed, 11 Dec 2002:
>"Whereas it is essential that, before issuing an EC declaration of
>conformity, the manufacturer or his authorised representative
>established
ary McInturff'; 'Nick Williams'; 'Stephen Irving'
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> Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
>
> There is a problem with "..the reader is guaranteed to get the latest
> revision as stored in our Document
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Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
There is a problem with "..the reader is guaranteed to get the latest revision
as stored in our Document Control system."
The advice I offer is "focus on the principles - reduce risk - reduce liab
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The Machinery Directive says:
"Whereas it is essential that, before issuing an EC declaration of
conformity, the manufacturer or his authorised representative
established in the Community should provide a technical construction
file; whereas it is not, however, essential that all documentatio
I read in !emc-pstc that Richard Hughes
wrote (in <6b78f2524cd7d5118a0402204840075b02795...@zhard0jc.europe.nort
el.com>) about 'Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies' on Wed, 11 Dec
2002:
>and guess what, neither
>CENELEC, CEN or ETSI play any part in it.
The bodies
I read in !emc-pstc that Gregg Kervill wrote (in
<000601c2a164$21f45f20$7100a8c0@MENHADEN>) about 'Location of CE DoCs -
electronic copies' on Wed, 11 Dec 2002:
>What happens to the responsible person who is under a legal obligation to
>make the test data and evidence upo
Electronic copies versus electronic copies.
As I see it the issues are
ONE-
If you scan the document and store them on CDROM then there is no problem
restoring them. EXCELLENT IDEA.
But if the data is linked to a LIVE drawing system than this could rapidl
ember 2002 18:49
To: Gary McInturff; Nick Williams; Stephen Irving
Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
Gary,
I'm with you on this one. I consider electronic availability to be equal
to, if not superior to, having the documents on "European Soi
I read in !emc-pstc that Chris Maxwell wrote
(in <83d652574e7af740873674f9fc12dbaaf7e...@utexh1w2.gnnettest.com>)
about 'Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies' on Wed, 11 Dec 2002:
>Of course, these are just my opinions and interpretations. I haven't had to
>
Has anyone on this list ever had an authority ask to see a DoC or TCF after
the product was placed on the market? We have had two products audit tested,
but no one has ever asked for these documents.
Richard Woods
Sensormatic Electronics
Tyco International
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Does electronic storage of the documents make any difference? The DoC,
the test reports, BOM's, drawings and Design verification tests are all stored
electronically and can be dumped from any printer in the world. Obviously, they
would have electronic signatures.
Gary
The old requirement that copies of technical files be maintained at some
physical location within the EU is essentially unenforceable. As John Woodgate
pointed out, newer Directives do not incorporate that wording.
To my knowledge, the only entities in the EU that have the legal authority to
I read in !emc-pstc that Gary McInturff wrote (in <917063bab0ddb043af5faa73c7a835d40ac...@windlord.wwp.com
>) about 'Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies' on Wed, 11 Dec 2002:
>
> Does electronic storage of the documents make any difference? The DoC,
>the test
; Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org
> Subject: RE: Location of CE DoCs - electronic copies
>
>
> Does electronic storage of the documents make any difference? The DoC,
> the test reports, BOM's, drawings and Design verification tests are all
> stored electronically
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