Re: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-26 Thread MLWaldron
At a previous employer we had this discussion with a vendor of ours. We contacted several compotent bodies (30+) in the United Kingdom and other countries in the European Communittee. We came up with a full 66% that would test products to CISPR 22 at ten meters. The other 33% would allow products t

Re: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-23 Thread Matejic, Mirko
...@ieee.org; robert.m...@engineers.com Subject: Re: Distance of Measurements List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Friday, June 20, 1997 9:58PM > ???: Matejic, Mirko > Reference and therefore preferred test distance for measurements > to CISPR 22 is 10 meters for both classe

Re: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-21 Thread Rene Charton
> 寄件者: Matejic, Mirko > Reference and therefore preferred test distance for measurements > to CISPR 22 is 10 meters for both classes A and B. > > Measurements at closer distances, including 3 meters are acceptable. > In a case of dispute results from 10 meters will take precedence. > `^

RE: Distance of Measurements, 55011

1997-06-17 Thread Flinders, Randall
Eric, You are correct in your evaluation of EN 55011 (Cispr 11). Keep in mind that the situation of not allowing distance correction is only found in Cispr 11, NOT Cispr 22. In reference to this specification, I had the opportunity to converse with several Competent Bodies in reference to Ci

RE: Distance of Measurements, 55011

1997-06-16 Thread Matejic, Mirko
Eric, You are right and this muddy point hopefully will be cleared. CISPR SC B Interference from Industrial, Scientific and Medical Radio Frequency Apparatus is preparing Annex to CISPR 11 which will allow testing class A equipment at 10 meters and class B at 3 meters with 20*Log(D/d) limit relax

Re: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-16 Thread Andy Griffin
d to the use >3 meter semi-anechoic chambers. > >Regards. > -- >From: Martin Garwood >To: DouglasScott >Cc: emc-pstc >Subject: Re: Distance of Measurements >Date: Friday, June 13, 1997 11:32AM > > >As Scott correctly quoted from EN55022 (and CISPR 22 1993

Re: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-13 Thread Jeff Whitmire ITS/QS-Atl
To all, I am curious as to the impact of this version of the standard to the use 3 meter semi-anechoic chambers. Regards. -- From: Martin Garwood To: DouglasScott Cc: emc-pstc Subject: Re: Distance of Measurements List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Friday, June 13, 1997 11:32AM

Re: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-13 Thread MLWaldron
At a previous employer we had this discussion with a vendor of ours. We contacted several compotent bodies (30+) in the United Kingdom and other countries in the European Communittee. We came up with a full 66% that would test products to CISPR 22 at ten meters. The other 33% would allow products t

RE: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-13 Thread Scott Drysdale
At 10:36 AM 6/12/97 -0700, Randy Flanders wrote: > >Richard and Robert: > >I agree with Richard, although I would recommend the opposite. I would Test >at 10 meters, and bring the antenna in to 3 meters if I come across >frequencies where ambients are interfering. This provides most data at th

Re: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-13 Thread Martin Garwood
As Scott correctly quoted from EN55022 (and CISPR 22 1993 edition), "If the field strength measurement at 10 m cannot be made because of high ambient noise levels or for other reasons, measurement of Class B EUTs may be made at a closer distance, for example 3m." It does not mention, or include c

RE: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-12 Thread Flinders, Randall
correction of signals that appear near ambients. Randy Flinders EMC Test Engineer Emulex Network Systems -- From: WOODS, RICHARD To: emc-p...@ieee.org; robert.m...@engineers.com Subject: RE: Distance of Measurements List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: Thursday, June 12, 1997 7:07AM 10m

Re: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-12 Thread Mark Briggs
CISPR22 measurement distance is 10m. Section 11.2.1 of the standard does allow for a test distance of less than 10m under certain conditions (e.g. high ambient noise levels). Any measurements made at a distance other than 10m should be corrected by 20log(10/d) (where d is the measurement dis

Re: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-12 Thread Steve Chin
Robert, as far as I know, 10M is the proper distance for CISPR B measurements. Steve Chin StreamLogic Corp. Menlo Park, CA, USA sc...@streamlogic.com Robert Macy (robert.m...@engineers.com) wrote: >For measuring emissions per CISPR 22B what is the proper distance for >the placement of the ante

RE: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-12 Thread Matejic, Mirko
Robert, Reference and therefore preferred test distance for measurements to CISPR 22 is 10 meters for both classes A and B. Measurements at closer distances, including 3 meters are acceptable. In a case of dispute results from 10 meters will take precedence. Mirko Matejic Coauthor of CISPR 22, E

Re: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-12 Thread Doug McKean
Robert Macy wrote: > > For measuring emissions per CISPR 22B what is the proper distance for > the placement of the antenna? > > Is it 3m? or 10m? > > [I'm running across reputable labs that claim there is nothing wrong > with measuring everything at 3m, just like FCC B.] > >

RE: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-12 Thread DouglasScott
Robert, According to BS EN 55022 : 1995 cl. 11.2.1 Antenna-to-EUT distance I quote: "Measurements of the radiated field shall be made with the antenna located at the horizontal distance from the boudary of the EUT as specified in clause 6. The boundary of the EUT is defined by an imaginary stra

RE: Distance of Measurements

1997-06-12 Thread WOODS, RICHARD
10m is the standard, but other distances are allowed. If there is ever a problem, data taken at 10 m will be used to judge your equipment. As a practical matter, we test our equipment at 3m because of ambients. My recommendation is to test at 10 m unless there are circumstances that prevent it or c