RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list - fixed installations

> To: Brian Jones > Cc: IEEE EMC & SAFETY PSTC > Subject: RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list - fixed > installations > > Brian, All, > > If a person undertakes a hobby in electronics - say home > automation - building all the necessary controllers and &g

RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list - fixed installations

& SAFETY PSTC" emc-p...@ieee.org Subject RE: New EMC Directive, new 07/30/2007 02:59 standards list - fixed

RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list - fixed installations

'IEEE EMC & SAFETY PSTC' Subject: RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list - fixed installations *** WARNING *** This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Internet. Keep this in mind if you answer this message

Re: New EMC Directive, new standards list

In message <200707231209.l6nc9kah019...@hormel6.ieee.org>, dated Mon, 23 Jul 2007, Brian Jones writes: >I just checked >2007.pdf> (beware possible word wrap - copy and paste the whole link >if necessary) Thanks for prom

RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list

rprise/electr_equipment/emc/directiv/dir2004_108.htm Best wishes Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: 23 July 2007 12:50 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: New EMC Directive, new standards list In message <200707200809.l6k89gbs025...@hormel6

Re: New EMC Directive, new standards list

In message <200707200809.l6k89gbs025...@hormel6.ieee.org>, dated Fri, 20 Jul 2007, Brian Jones writes: >See the latest version of the EC Guide Annex 4 >http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/guides/emcguide_may2007. >pdf This page no longer exists, and the EUROPA site now offers o

RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list - fixed installations

maintenance provided by the supplier of each apparatus. I hope this helps. Best wishes Brian From: Gordon,Ian [mailto:ian.gor...@edwardsvacuum.com] Sent: 23 July 2007 10:54 To: 'Brian Jones' Cc: 'IEEE EMC & SAFETY PSTC' Subject: RE: New EMC Directive, new standards li

Re: New EMC Directive, new standards list

In message <008101c7cad0$463a6970$154d4d0a@MmPc21>, dated Fri, 20 Jul 2007, Piotr Galka writes: >Does that mean that if I change my PC-mouse from any reason I should >follow this change with some sophisticated documentation ? >Are there anywhere ready to copy such documentation to not spend few

Re: New EMC Directive, new standards list

ehalf Of Haynes, > Tim > (SELEX) (UK Capability Green) > Sent: 20 July 2007 12:32 > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list > > Neil, Alan, All, > > As Neil says, this legislation applies to "fixed installations". > The

RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list

it that is within their control, unless it forms part of another fixed installation. Best wishes Brian From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of Haynes, Tim (SELEX) (UK Capability Green) Sent: 20 July 2007 12:32 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: New EMC Directive, new stan

RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list

ehalf Of Barker, Neil Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 11:49 AM To: Hudson, Alan (BAE Systems) (UK); emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list *** WARNING *** This mail has originated outside your organization, either from an external partner or the Global Inter

Re: New EMC Directive, new standards list

In message <90511c6e9d0a89419745854eace4c7a8036b5...@whl46.e2v.com>, dated Fri, 20 Jul 2007, "Barker, Neil" writes: >This part of the legislation affects 'fixed installations', not movable >equipment such as printers and PCs, which will be compliant in their >own right. I don't think so. Equi

Re: New EMC Directive, new standards list

In message , dated Fri, 20 Jul 2007, "Hudson, Alan (UK)" writes: >Is there some particular wording of the Directive or Regulations that >implies factories & offices are included? They are treated in a different way from in the old Directive. You need to read the new Directive, about 'fixed

RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list

] Sent: 20 July 2007 10:35 To: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list Brian Jones wrote: > If you are based in the EEA and change your fixed installations (offices, factories, etc.) > from today in a way that may affect the electromagnetic compatibility, yo

RE: New EMC Directive, new standards list

Brian Jones wrote: > If you are based in the EEA and change your fixed installations (offices, factories, etc.) > from today in a way that may affect the electromagnetic compatibility, you must appoint a > responsible person and document the good engineering practices involved in the change (not

RE: New EMC Directive Reference

st declare to new Directive and appropriate version of EN55022 at that time. Anybody disagree ?? Brian McAuliffe Dell Ireland From: emc-p...@ieee.org [mailto:emc-p...@ieee.org] On Behalf Of John Woodgate Sent: 04 June 2007 16:00 To: Leber Jody-G19980 Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org Subject: Re: New

Re: New EMC Directive Reference

In message <768ee6ab7d56d54bb5000ec2dd113e7102195...@de01exm61.ds.mot.com>, Leber Jody-G19980 writes >Since the new directive is published in the OJ, can I reference it on >DoCs now or is the intent to wait until July 20 to start using it. DoCs referencing the new Directive are not valid befor

Re: New emc directive

In message <61C4FB39D953B24F9252C89CB018F0DF7F07B2@mont-exch.MITEC.local>, dated Tue, 18 Jul 2006, David Gelfand writes >The new EMCD that takes effect on July 20, 2007 says that equipment for >fixed installations may not need CE marking and declaration of >conformity.  The fixed installation

Re: New emc directive

> What impact if any will the changes in the EMC directive have on equipment falling under R&TTE directive? Radio and telecommunications equipment is not covered by the new EMCD, so I would say: NONE. John Radomski Principal Engineer Schneider Automation Inc.

Re: New EMC Directive

In message , dated Wed, 10 May 2006, "White, Ian" writes >We have been looking at the new EMC Directive and how it will >affect the company.  The one change that could have expensive >implications is under : >  >Part 3 - of the EMC Regulations - General Requirements - Apparatus - >Page 7 >  >

RE: New EMC directive

januari 2005 03:16 FW>To: emc-p...@ieee.org FW>Subject: Re: New EMC directive FW> FW>On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:31:40 -0800, FW> "Jim Eichner" wrote: FW> FW>> The one thing I thought they were going to change that was significant, FW>> turns out not to have

Re: New EMC directive

On Fri, 14 Jan 2005 15:31:40 -0800, "Jim Eichner" wrote: > The one thing I thought they were going to change that was significant, > turns out not to have been changed. There had been some discussions > about allowing the Essential Requirements (TCF) route to compliance (as > opposed to the ha

RE: RE: New EMC directive

will be a major stumbling block in the future? Thanks, Brian Reply Separator____ Subject: RE: New EMC directive Author: cecil.gitt...@kodak.com List-Post: emc-pstc@listserv.ieee.org Date: 1/14/05 9:57 AM Does this mean that it doesn't apply until Jul

RE: New EMC directive

[mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of cecil.gitt...@kodak.com Sent: Friday, January 14, 2005 6:47 AM To: kristiaan.carpent...@thomson.net Cc: am...@westin-emission.no; emc-p...@ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org; rehel...@mmm.com Subject: RE: New EMC directive Does this mean that

RE: New EMC directive

Kristiaan" , homson.net> cc: , Sent by: owner-emc-pstc@LISTSERV Subject: RE: New EMC directive .IEEE.ORG 01/04/2005 09:00 A

RE: New EMC Directive

I am a fresh subscriber to this list, so I might duplicate information which is already well known - yet, just in case: on 3 February 2005, there will be an information day on the new EMCD, organised by the EC: http://europa.eu.int/comm/enterprise/electr_equipment/emc/revision/workshop.htm I guess

RE: New EMC directive

you have received this message in error, please inform us immediately and delete its contents. From: john.radom...@modicon.com [mailto:john.radom...@modicon.com] Sent: dinsdag 4 januari 2005 21:37 To: Gert Gremmen Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org; mike.hu...@philips.com Subject: RE: New EMC directive > I

RE: New EMC directive

> I do not fully agree with both of you Mike and John, > The directive enters into force on Jan 20th of 2005 and the actual legal date of application would (for manufacturers) per member state depend on the actual date of implementation in national law. The target date of becoming into force is the

RE: New EMC directive

>Sent: dinsdag 4 januari 2005 18:19 FW>To: john.radom...@modicon.com FW>Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org FW>Subject: RE: New EMC directive FW> FW>I agree this is confusing, how would you apply Article 14 ? It says From FW>July 20th on the old directive is repealed, the

RE: New EMC directive

e- FW>From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc- FW>p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of mike.hu...@philips.com FW>Sent: dinsdag 4 januari 2005 18:19 FW>To: john.radom...@modicon.com FW>Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org FW>Subject: RE: New E

RE: New EMC directive

e.org cc: (bcc: Mike Hudon/ANR/MS/PHILIPS) Subject: RE: New EMC directive john.radom...@modicon.com Classification: Sent by: owner-emc-p...@listserv

Re: New EMC directive

In article , rehel...@mmm.com writes >Thanks, I understand but what does Article 17 mean? It says: Article 17 Entry into force This Directive shall enter into force on the twentieth day after its publication in the Official Journal of the European Union. The URL given here was to the actual OJE

Re: New EMC directive

In article , James, Chris writes >As I read it 89/336 is repealed as from 20 July 2007 by when member >states have to have national legislation in place. This to me means that >products being first time certified after this date need to be compliant >with 2004/108 whilst existing product complian

RE: New EMC directive

by: cc: emc-p...@ieee.org, owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org owner-emc-pstc@LISTSESubject: RE: New EMC directive RV.IEEE.ORG 01/04/2005 10:57 AM Here is my interpretation: Today (or 20 days f

RE: New EMC directive

e-mail: mike.hu...@philips.com To: cc: (bcc: Mike Hudon/ANR/MS/PHILIPS) Subject:RE: New EMC directive

RE: New EMC directive

cc , Subject RE: New EMC directive As I read it 89/336 is repealed as from 20 July 2007 by when member states have to have national legislation in place. This to me means that products being first time certi

Re: New EMC directive

--Original Message- >From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org >[mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of rehel...@mmm.com >Sent: 04 January 2005 13:01 >To: am...@westin-emission.no >Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org >Subject: Re: New EMC directive >

RE: New EMC directive

336. regards, Ari > -Original Message- > From: owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org > [mailto:owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org] On Behalf Of > rehel...@mmm.com > Sent: 04 January 2005 13:01 > To: am...@westin-emission.no > Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.or

RE: New EMC directive

Bob Yes but to 20 July 2007 - not 2009! John Allen -Original Message- From: rehel...@mmm.com [ mailto:rehel...@mmm.com] Sent: 04 January 2005 13:01 To: am...@westin-emission.no Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re: New EMC directive Does this

RE: New EMC directive

] On Behalf Of rehel...@mmm.com Sent: 04 January 2005 13:01 To: am...@westin-emission.no Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re: New EMC directive Does this mean that you can use either EMC Directive until 20 July 2009? Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN

RE: New EMC directive

4 januari 2005 14:01 To: am...@westin-emission.no Cc: emc-p...@ieee.org; owner-emc-p...@listserv.ieee.org Subject: Re: New EMC directive Does this mean that you can use either EMC Directive until 20 July 2009? Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax

Re: New EMC directive

Does this mean that you can use either EMC Directive until 20 July 2009? Bob Heller 3M EMC Laboratory, 76-1-01 St. Paul, MN 55107-1208 Tel: 651- 778-6336 Fax: 651-778-6252 === S

RE: New EMC Directive

European Commission. When anyone has a link to the final, published text please share it. Ian Gordon BOC Edwards From: thierry.bref...@cec.eu.int [mailto:thierry.bref...@cec.eu.int] Sent: 01 December 2004 16:41 To: ian.gor...@bocedwards.com Subject: RE: New EMC Directive As far as I remember (bu

RE: NEW EMC DIRECTIVE

om: Gordon,Ian [mailto:ian.gor...@bocedwards.com] Sent: May 9, 2003 2:10 AM To: 'John Woodgate'; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: NEW EMC DIRECTIVE John et al How can the authors of the directive reconcile the concept of "benign equipment" (which are outside the sc

Re: NEW EMC DIRECTIVE

I read in !emc-pstc that Gordon,Ian wrote (in ) about 'NEW EMC DIRECTIVE' on Fri, 9 May 2003: >How can the authors of the directive reconcile the concept of "benign >equipment" (which are outside the scope of the directive) with the >requirement to include, for example, a mains lead? Does this m

RE: NEW EMC DIRECTIVE

hat a lead provided with a piece of equipment would be covered by the D of C for that equipment. Ian Gordon > -Original Message- > From: John Woodgate [mailto:j...@jmwa.demon.co.uk] > Sent: 08 May 2003 17:50 > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: Re: NEW EMC DIRECTIVE &

Re: NEW EMC DIRECTIVE

I read in !emc-pstc that Gordon,Ian wrote (in ) about 'NEW EMC DIRECTIVE' on Thu, 8 May 2003: >Does anyone know what a "ready-made connection device" is? A cable with connectors attached, offered for general sale. A special cable, made for a particular site, comes under the new provisions for '

RE: NEW EMC DIRECTIVE

Yes. In common parlance it is a ready made cable (as opposed to a cable assembled in situ); e.g. a network cable, USB cable, printer cable, or any other type of cable procured with connectors already assembled. Best regards, Neil R. Barker Compliance Engineering Manager e2v technologies ltd Wate

RE: NEW EMC DIRECTIVE

An interface cable. They couldn't just use a simple word. Ari. > -Original Message- > From: ext Gordon,Ian [mailto:ian.gor...@bocedwards.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2003 11:23 AM > To: 'IEEE EMC-PSTC GROUP' > Subject: NEW EMC DIRECTIVE > > > > All > There is a review of the new EMC