Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports

2002-09-24 Thread Lfresearch
In a message dated 9/24/02 9:47:03 AM Central Daylight Time, jrbar...@iglou.com writes: > I agree with Warren that electrostatic discharge (ESD) testing is the > most important single immunity test that you can run during > development Here I beg to differ, Fast transient Burst has been the mos

Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports

2002-09-24 Thread Lfresearch
Hi Warren, My charge includes the test reports... I've made it so the data collection process writes the report for me. All I have to do is modify a generic front section. Total time about 3 hours... I'm sure other labs have done similar processes. Cheers, Derek.

Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports

2002-09-24 Thread Warren Birmingham
Jim, as I see it, EFT and Surge are not a whole lot different except for the amount of power in the surge pulses. Surge is pretty much a test of the power supply's ability to handle the power and not pass it to the secondary circuitry. I believe that a good line filter coupled with the use

RE: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports

2002-09-24 Thread Jim Eichner
Thanks to all who have responded so far. One note of clarification: we are already set up for doing ESD testing in-house, and I agree that's where most of our failures will happen. I also agree that much of the immunity suite will take care of itself on a well designed unit that has low emission

RE: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports

2002-09-24 Thread Gary McInturff
Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports When you consider the cost of reports I think the cost goes up from $4500. Two of the labs I use, cost runs about $5000 for the immunity testing only plus cost of reports, give or take a few nickels. Warren On Monday, Sep 23, 2002,

Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports

2002-09-24 Thread Warren Birmingham
When you consider the cost of reports I think the cost goes up from $4500. Two of the labs I use, cost runs about $5000 for the immunity testing only plus cost of reports, give or take a few nickels. Warren On Monday, Sep 23, 2002, at 19:30 US/Pacific, lfresea...@aol.com wrote: In a me

Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports

2002-09-24 Thread John Barnes
Jim, I agree with Warren that electrostatic discharge (ESD) testing is the most important single immunity test that you can run during development. In my previous job as a product developer at IBM and Lexmark (mid-1990 to early 2002), I developed/helped develop some 15 generations of network adap

RE: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports

2002-09-24 Thread Peter Merguerian
fortjets.com; jim.eich...@xantrex.com Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports In a message dated 9/23/02 9:05:08 PM Central Daylight Time, war...@comfortjets.com writes: A suite of testing runs about $6000 for immunity for ITE equipment to

RE: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports

2002-09-24 Thread Brent DeWitt
chner Cc: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports Jim, it is just my opinion, but well-designed equipment does not have much risk of failure for the majority of the tests. The one test that is worth some investment is an ESD test device. I belie

Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports

2002-09-24 Thread Lfresearch
In a message dated 9/23/02 9:05:08 PM Central Daylight Time, war...@comfortjets.com writes: > A suite of testing runs about $6000 for immunity for ITE equipment to > meet EN 55 024 without even talking about the Radiated Immunity > requirements equipment and a chamber. You are going to likely

Re: Surge and EFT test equipment for AC, DC, and signal ports

2002-09-24 Thread Warren Birmingham
Jim, it is just my opinion, but well-designed equipment does not have much risk of failure for the majority of the tests. The one test that is worth some investment is an ESD test device. I believe that this is the most commonly-failed test and often the most difficult to correct without so