RE: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-20 Thread cetest
I agree with Jim and Carlos , If the design includes a specification that in case of a surge impulse the equipment is switched off, ok that's fine. It exhibits as specified so full compliance. If I would like to have that power supply in my electronics, that's another question. If that is a go

Re: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-14 Thread Ralph Cameron
s a bypass capacitor is required also. on the hot lead to ground. Ralph - Original Message - From: "Derek Walton" To: "Ralph Cameron" Cc: ; "Jim Hulbert" ; Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 3:12 PM Subject: Re: Surge Test Performance Criterion > Ralph, > &g

Re: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-13 Thread Derek Walton
gt; Ralph Cameron > > EMC Consultant and Suppression of Consumer Electronic Equipment. > (After sale) > > - Original Message - > From: "Derek Walton" > To: > Cc: "Jim Hulbert" ; > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 8:57 AM > Subject: Re: Surge Tes

Re: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-13 Thread Ralph Cameron
addition of a single resistor. Ralph Cameron EMC Consultant and Suppression of Consumer Electronic Equipment. (After sale) - Original Message - From: "Derek Walton" To: Cc: "Jim Hulbert" ; Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 8:57 AM Subject: Re: Surge Test P

Re: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-13 Thread Derek Walton
Jim, all the power supplies I design are capible of riding through the EN1000-4-5 surge. I would class this as Cat A. Cat B would be if the power supply momentarally ( literally this could imply once the surge has gone ) dropped out, and came back right away on its own. I would expect to see non

RE: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-13 Thread Robert Tims (EMX)
ystems Inc. > -Original Message- > From: rehel...@mmm.com [SMTP:rehel...@mmm.com] > Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2000 7:54 AM > To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org > Subject: Re: Surge Test Performance Criterion > > > > > I agree with Carlos. > &g

Re: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-13 Thread Derek Walton
Sorry Carlos, I can't go along with this one. If I'm using my PC here in the USA midwest and a storm comes along I don't want my PC shutting itself off every few minutes Only been hit directly with two lightning strikes this last 2 years, but during a storm you can continuously heat squeaki

Re: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-13 Thread reheller
E. Heller/US-Corporate/3M/US) Subject: Re: Surge Test Performance Criterion Jim, I agree with you, on the basis that in this case, a complete shut-down is a designed-in function of the product, and the standard says "No degradation of performance or loss of function is allowed below

Re: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-13 Thread carlos . perkins
Jim, I agree with you, on the basis that in this case, a complete shut-down is a designed-in function of the product, and the standard says "No degradation of performance or loss of function is allowed below a performance level specified by the manfucturer". You, as the manufacturer, are specify

Re: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-13 Thread bfagley
Jim: To me, the usual interpretation of performance criteria "B" is that the product has some deviation of performance during the test but the basic functionality of the product remains. The product must resume normal operation after the test, without operator intervention. Complete shutdown of

RE: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-12 Thread efo
Hi Jim, A guideline I use for Criteria B is that the E.U.T may exhibit degradation due to the field disturbance, but must self-recover after the field disturbance is removed. What I have seen is that in certain power supplies the secondary output voltage drops due to the surge, causing telco syst

RE: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-12 Thread Mark Schmidt
Jim, I forget where I procured this definition for Criteria B but if you abide by this definition, it would indicate to me that Due Diligence was exercised when testing your apparatus. 10 minutes however seems to be a bit long, where does this constraint come from? "the apparatus shall continue

RE: Surge Test Performance Criterion

2000-01-12 Thread Lacey,Scott
Jim, The situation you describe would be criterion C, because there is a "temporary loss of function" and it is "recoverable". Scott Lacey > -Original Message- > From: Jim Hulbert [SMTP:hulbe...@pb.com] > Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2000 3:08 PM > To: emc-p...@ieee.org > Subject: