RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Gary McInturff
, 2003 4:53 PM To: Gary McInturff Cc: john.al...@era.co.uk; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: Re: product safety audit scenario Hi Gary: Your comment triggers another comment: Leadership. Typically, we tend to let the inspector be the leader for the duration of the inspection. The host

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Gary McInturff
: product safety audit scenario Alice, An inspector cannot hold your shipment! They can however ask you to remove the agency marking from the products prior to shipment. Some examples of major deviations: 1) change of power supply 2) pcb traces that are different than original design 3) change

Re: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Gary: Your comment triggers another comment: Leadership. Typically, we tend to let the inspector be the leader for the duration of the inspection. The host can be the leader. The host can set the agenda (in advance, although the inspector need not be notified). First, is to decide

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Sylvia Toma
: FastWave [mailto:bi...@fastwave.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 12:12 PM To: Sylvia Toma; Lay Siang Saw; emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: product safety audit scenario The Certification laboratories such as UL, CSA, ETL, MET, etc. cannot hold a shipment. However, they can require

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Gary McInturff
Agree, with it all, except I signed the VN - right after it was cleared up with the UL engineer. The inspector was correct that it didn't match the descriptive file, it was also the case that it didn't matter from a hazard perspective, and to avoid the problem in the future we did need

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Sylvia Toma
, February 18, 2003 1:51 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: product safety audit scenario Hi all, Can anyone share with me under what conditions an auditor is allowed to stop shipments ? Thanks,alice -- Forwarded by Lay Siang Saw/MY/Asia/Celestica on 02/18/2003 06

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread John Allen
:16 To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: product safety audit scenario In the real world, however, such jugements are made by the safety agency factory inspectors. Unfortunately, our factories have received several variance notices in the past, but not a single one has resulted

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread richwo...@tycoint.com
...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: RE: product safety audit scenario When the product differs from your product description - (most) auditors are expressly forbidden to make engineering judgments - therefore is it says Painted Steel in the narrative description and its actually Anodized Aluminum then he will have

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Gregg Kervill
Gregg From: owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org [mailto:owner-emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org]On Behalf Of Lay Siang Saw Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 4:51 AM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: product safety audit scenario Hi all, Can anyone share with me under what conditions an auditor

product safety audit scenario

2003-02-18 Thread Lay Siang Saw
...@majordomo.ieee.org cc: Subject:product safety audit scenario Hi all, Thank you very much for your comments.I have received many replies from this forum. May be someone out there can standardize this,applicable to UL,TUV,CSA etc. On the reportOn the physical

Re: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-17 Thread Rich Nute
Hi Alice: Scenario : Component A with rating mentioned in the UL's product report as 90-135/180-265 Vac, however in the phyical unit is written as 115/230 V . Q1 : Is this a non conformity ? Should a VN be raised ? Yes, this is a non-conformity. In this case, the report should be

Re: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-17 Thread soundsu...@aol.com
Scenario : Component A with rating mentioned in the UL's product report as 90-135/180-265 Vac, however in the phyical unit is written as 115/230 V . Q1 : Is this a non conformity ? Should a VN be raised ? Theoretically, it's a non-conformity, however if the component is being used within its

RE: product safety audit scenario

2003-02-17 Thread bryan.c...@control-concepts.com
-Concepts.com www.Edcosurge.com -Original Message- From: Lay Siang Saw [ mailto:l...@celestica.com] Sent: Sunday, February 16, 2003 10:41 PM To: emc-p...@majordomo.ieee.org Subject: product safety audit scenario Hi all,can anyone share with me with your comments Scenario