Re: [Emc-users] HNC Lathe Tuning

2007-10-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 20:53 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: What is the status of PID_MAX_VEL and PWM_OUTPUT_SCALE? My understanding is that they were created to fix persistence issues. I am using EMC 2.1.7 so should I still use them? Arrghhh! I don't actually know.

Re: [Emc-users] HNC Lathe Tuning

2007-10-12 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk, Just to add a data point on my minimill system, it has 128000 encoder counts per inch. I can get the following error down to about 200 uInch peak, up to 50 IPM or more. But, it takes some effort to tune it to that level. On my Bridgeport, I have 2 counts per inch on X and Y, and I

Re: [Emc-users] HNC Lathe Tuning

2007-10-12 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Thu, 2007-10-11 at 20:53 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: Kirk Wallace wrote: What is the status of PID_MAX_VEL and PWM_OUTPUT_SCALE? My understanding is that they were created to fix persistence issues. I am using EMC 2.1.7 so should I still use them? Arrghhh! I don't

[Emc-users] Backlash compensation on EMC 4.16?

2007-10-12 Thread eshop
I was wondering how to use this functionality. When I select Settings | Set Backlash, I get a baffling EMC Calibration dialog that asks for: Axis: 0 P Gain: 100.0 I Gain: 0.0 D Gain: 0.0 Pos FF Gain: 0.0 Vel FF Gain: 0.0 Acc FF Gain: 0.0 Backlash: 0.0 Bias: 0.0

Re: [Emc-users] Re C programming and tuneup/PID HELP. (Kirk Wallace)

2007-10-12 Thread Kenneth Lerman
Hello Aram, It's a great world we live in when we can communicate even though we don't agree on how many letters in the alphabet. :-) I don't think the problem is quite that simple. For example, your approach doesn't take tool length or diameter compenstation into account. I don't think we would

[Emc-users] Stepper motors and Gecko's

2007-10-12 Thread Alfred Smart
I posted last week about steeper motors maybe week? So I thought I would follow up and ask some more questions. Anyway I was using terminal #7 on the gecko 210 tied to my estop to ground to disable the drive. This pulls the motor windings to zero, (gecko doc,s) I always wonder why the drives

Re: [Emc-users] HNC Lathe Tuning

2007-10-12 Thread John Kasunich
Kirk Wallace wrote: I was also thinking that it would be good to have EMC loop an axis move and have halscope update on the trigger, as it already does, and then be able to tweak the PID settings as EMC loops. When I do PID tuning I usually skip EMC completely. I just set up a simple single

Re: [Emc-users] Stepper motors and Gecko's

2007-10-12 Thread Jon Elson
Alfred Smart wrote: I posted last week about steeper motors maybe week? So I thought I would follow up and ask some more questions. Anyway I was using terminal #7 on the gecko 210 tied to my estop to ground to disable the drive. This pulls the motor windings to zero, (gecko doc,s) I always

Re: [Emc-users] HNC Lathe Tuning

2007-10-12 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 20:37 -0500, Jon Elson wrote: ... snip So at 5k cpi on my lathe, I should be able to get similar results, I hope. Thanks Jon. Well, 5000 is a lot less than 128,000, and 4 times coarser than my 20,000 counts/inch. So, it would be normal to expect the best