Re: [Emc-users] CAM solutions

2010-03-21 Thread Leslie Newell
SheetCam isn't open source but it is pretty reasonably priced and there is a Linux version as well as a Windows version. The Linux version is a little out of date at the moment but the Windows version runs well under Wine. I am working on an update to the Linux version. Les Karl Schmidt wrot

Re: [Emc-users] CAM solutions

2010-03-21 Thread Sven Wesley
2010/3/20 Karl Schmidt > What are people using to generate tool paths? > > I dug into this a few years back and put my notes here: > > http://wiki.xtronics.com/index.php/CAD_CAM#Linux_friendly_CAD_CAM_packages > > I've not found usable Open-source software - so I'm looking for something > afforda

Re: [Emc-users] CAM solutions

2010-03-21 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010 23:17:00 -0400, you wrote: >I had BobCad and it truly sucks. >It was a complete waste of money for us. >They sold it to us "twice" promising that it would just take a few small >edits to the G-code translator to get it to work with Isel machines. >After 4 months they still cou

Re: [Emc-users] 'Touchy' touch screen interface

2010-03-21 Thread John Guenther
On Sat, 2010-03-20 at 21:26 -0600, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > Please show us the output of these commands: > > dpkg -l emc2 python Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold | Status=Not/Installed/Config-f/Unpacked/Failed-cfg/Half-inst/t-aWait/T-pend |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=bot

Re: [Emc-users] tkemc problems!

2010-03-21 Thread Binh Hoang
I have changed interface tkemc. Now, i have a script with file.tcl but i don't know to compile that file? please! -- Download Intel® Parallel Studio Eval Try the new software tools for yourself. Speed compiling, find bugs p

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Mark Wendt (Contractor)
At 03:12 PM 3/20/2010, you wrote: >I can't personally testify to that as my only machine is a thoroughly hacked, >all new Z axis saig x1, with 262 or 425 oz steppers on it, aka the smallest >HF they sell, with bigger tables and the rebuilt z, it does pretty well if I >can keep the damned typos und

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 21 March 2010, Mark Wendt (Contractor) wrote: >At 03:12 PM 3/20/2010, you wrote: > > >>I can't personally testify to that as my only machine is a thoroughly >> hacked, all new Z axis saig x1, with 262 or 425 oz steppers on it, aka >> the smallest HF they sell, with bigger tables and the r

[Emc-users] Cad software

2010-03-21 Thread Kasey Matejcek
I've got a project to do on my 4 axis mill x,y,z,a running EMC A is parallel to to the X axis and is a rotory head the part will between centers on the x axis 28" long The part file is a 3d model of a cylinder like shape egg shape What cad program will work the best to output gcode for machinin

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Paul Keeton
Peter, I have a question about the the 7i33. The machine we are discussing has three 25 HP spindle motors operating on 3 separate VFD's. We have a Italian control that was fitted onto a machine and it has a 100ma limit on its analog output. Each VFD requires a minimum of 70ma to run. W

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Sun, 21 Mar 2010, Paul Keeton wrote: > Date: Sun, 21 Mar 2010 11:39:57 -0400 > From: Paul Keeton > Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > > To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC > > Peter, > > I have a questio

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Paul Keeton
Peter, > The 7I33 has limited output current capabilites so would need a buffer to > drive your VFDs. Since there is such high input current I would use one > buffer > per VFD. Are these 0-10V + direction devices or +- 10V? The drives can be setup either way for either +-10 or +10 with direction

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Andy Pugh
On 21 March 2010 15:39, Paul Keeton wrote: > Each VFD requires a minimum of 70ma to run. We had to put > a small phoenix contact amp on it to boost the analog signal to run all > three drives on that machine. 70mA is quite a lot, really. However there are op-amps that can handle that amount of

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Paul Keeton
Thanks Andy! - Original Message - From: "Andy Pugh" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC > On 21 March 2010 15:39, Paul Keeton wrote: > >> Each VFD requires a minimum of 70ma to run. We

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Mark
That time difference is surprising to me. I started a new wiki page for machining time comparisons. It might help people who don't think EMC is serious enough for their needs. http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ControlComparisons Mark On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Paul Keeton wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Paul Keeton
That's awesome Mark.Let me give you some more info.. This same program ran on a Selca Control in 16 minutes. That was a $250K refit for a high speed control. That selca is a different animal though. It was designed to push point to point programs thru a 1500 ipm machines. The EMC versio

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Stuart Stevenson
I don't have times - just operator reports. 5 axis Cinci with MDSI/Opencnc vs 5 axis Cinci with EMC2 Operators tell me the exact same program yields twice as many parts per day on the EMC2 controlled machine. -- dos centavos -

Re: [Emc-users] tkemc problems!

2010-03-21 Thread Jon Elson
Binh Hoang wrote: > I have changed interface tkemc. Now, i have a script with file.tcl but i > don't know to compile that file? please! > tcl scripts are not compiled. The are interpreted in real time by the tcl interpreter. If you have a stand-alone tcl script, you can run it with a command

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread robert
On 21/03/2010 16:53, Mark wrote: > That time difference is surprising to me. I started a new wiki page for > machining time comparisons. It might help people who don't think EMC is > serious enough for their needs. > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/emcinfo.pl?ControlComparisons > Mark might b

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 21 March 2010, Paul Keeton wrote: >Peter, > > I have a question about the the 7i33. The machine we are > discussing has three 25 HP spindle motors operating on 3 separate VFD's. > We have a Italian control that was fitted onto a machine and it has a > 100ma limit on its analog out

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 21 March 2010, Andy Pugh wrote: >On 21 March 2010 15:39, Paul Keeton wrote: >> Each VFD requires a minimum of 70ma to run. We had to put >> a small phoenix contact amp on it to boost the analog signal to run all >> three drives on that machine. > >70mA is quite a lot, really. However th

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Andy Pugh
On 21 March 2010 19:30, Gene Heskett wrote: >>http://docs-europe.origin.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0024/0900766b800246 >>97.pdf > He would need one of those per vfd. Indeed. But then you would need one per VFD to run the drives at different speeds anyway, which seems a very likely requiremen

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Paul Keeton
>Paul, your choice of a signal booster appears to be a poor one Obviously, the phoenix amp was installed just to get the spindles to run at program speed to begin with. The speed control issue popped up later on. Thanks, Paul - Original Message - From: "Gene Heskett" To: "Enhance

[Emc-users] EMCO PC Mill 50 retrofit

2010-03-21 Thread fritz
A local campus has an EMCO PC Mill 50, which communicates over RS485 with a PC (running Win98, bleh!). I was wondering if anyone here has had any experience with EMCO machines. I'd like to get an idea of how difficult a retrofit with EMC would be. To my eye, it appears that the stepper driver

Re: [Emc-users] EMCO PC Mill 50 retrofit

2010-03-21 Thread evan foss
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 3:56 PM, fritz wrote: > A local campus has an EMCO PC Mill 50, which communicates over RS485 > with a PC (running Win98, bleh!).  I was wondering if anyone here has > had any experience with EMCO machines.  I'd like to get an idea of how > difficult a retrofit with EMC woul

Re: [Emc-users] CAM solutions

2010-03-21 Thread Karl Schmidt
ad...@mmri.us wrote: > I had BobCad and it truly sucks. > It was a complete waste of money for us. > They sold it to us "twice" promising that it would just take a few small > edits to the G-code translator to get it to work with Isel machines. > After 4 months they still could not translate to Is

[Emc-users] UBUNTU + virus

2010-03-21 Thread a
Hi I think year ago we talk about “read only chip” where operating system will be on read only chip and benefit of that. Right now I think it is imperative to go back to read only chip not to start computer faster but to solve a virus problem. Very soon virus will be design to every operating syste

Re: [Emc-users] CAM solutions

2010-03-21 Thread John Guenther
No, but since no is not in their vocabulary anything is possible. On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 16:53 -0500, Karl Schmidt wrote: > ad...@mmri.us wrote: > > I had BobCad and it truly sucks. > > It was a complete waste of money for us. > > They sold it to us "twice" promising that it would just take a few

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: > I don't have times - just operator reports. > 5 axis Cinci with MDSI/Opencnc vs 5 axis Cinci with EMC2 > Operators tell me the exact same program yields twice as many parts per day > on the EMC2 controlled machine. > This of course could be the result of a lot of thin

Re: [Emc-users] UBUNTU + virus

2010-03-21 Thread Andy Pugh
On 21 March 2010 21:35, wrote: > Is it possible to put UBUNTU or XP on read only chip with all special > custom drivers? Just run off the LiveCD and leave the network cable unplugged, that way you can never get a virus. -- atp -

Re: [Emc-users] UBUNTU + virus

2010-03-21 Thread Ian W. Wright
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Re: [Emc-users] UBUNTU + virus

2010-03-21 Thread Jon Elson
a...@conceptmachinery.com wrote: > Hi > I think year ago we talk about “read only chip” where operating system > will be on read only chip and benefit of that. > Right now I think it is imperative to go back to read only chip not to > start computer faster but to solve a virus problem. > I have

[Emc-users] Cad software for A axis

2010-03-21 Thread Kasey Matejcek
I've got a project to do on my 4 axis mill x,y,z,a running EMC A is parallel to to the X axis and is a rotory head the part will between centers on the x axis 28" long The part file is a 3d model of a cylinder like shape egg shape What cad program will work the best to output gcode for machinin

Re: [Emc-users] UBUNTU + virus

2010-03-21 Thread j...@coats.org
I agree, I have been hacked into before, but I was NOT behind even a minimal router/firewall, and the system was not locked down. I figure I got what I deserved because I knew better and was just lazy. As far as virus, worm or the like that I am always finding on M$ machines, no, nothing of the li

Re: [Emc-users] Cad software for A axis

2010-03-21 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Sun, 2010-03-21 at 18:39 -0500, Kasey Matejcek wrote: > I've got a project to do on my 4 axis mill x,y,z,a running EMC > > A is parallel to to the X axis and is a rotory head the part will between > centers on the x axis 28" long > > The part file is a 3d model of a cylinder like shape egg sha

Re: [Emc-users] CAM solutions

2010-03-21 Thread Mike Payson
None of these are Open Source, and non work natively with Linux, but since those requirements weren't mentioned in your question, only in the notes you linked to, I'll ignore them in my response. :-) Nobody seems to have mentioned CamBam. It has a bit of a learning curve, but it has a ton of power

Re: [Emc-users] CAM solutions

2010-03-21 Thread Ries van Twisk
On Mar 21, 2010, at 7:17 PM, Mike Payson wrote: > None of these are Open Source, and non work natively with Linux, but > since those requirements weren't mentioned in your question, only in > the notes you linked to, I'll ignore them in my response. :-) > > Nobody seems to have mentioned CamBam.

Re: [Emc-users] EMCO PC Mill 50 retrofit

2010-03-21 Thread BRIAN GLACKIN
Serial is a nogo with realtime in EMC Having said that, depending upon your budget, you could through the existing controller away (and/or ebay it) and pick up a stepper controller that would allow you to run the mill through the parrallel port (cheap) or using an FPGA board (less cheap). for a 4

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Stuart Stevenson
On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 4:13 PM, Jon Elson wrote: > Stuart Stevenson wrote: > > I don't have times - just operator reports. > > 5 axis Cinci with MDSI/Opencnc vs 5 axis Cinci with EMC2 > > Operators tell me the exact same program yields twice as many parts per > day > > on the EMC2 controlled m

Re: [Emc-users] EMCO PC Mill 50 retrofit

2010-03-21 Thread evan foss
Are you sure we need realtime? I kind of doubt that Emco would use a PLC for anything but the real time operation of the motors. On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:37 PM, BRIAN GLACKIN wrote: > Serial is a nogo with realtime in EMC > > Having said that, depending upon your budget, you could through the ex

Re: [Emc-users] CAM solutions

2010-03-21 Thread Mike Payson
Ries, Thanks for the recommendation. At $5k, Pro-E is pretty spendy for my needs, but it looks like they do offer a non-commercial version for $250. Might be worth considering. http://store.ptc.com/DRHM/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayProductDetailsPage&SiteID=ptc&Locale=en_US&Env=BASE&pr

Re: [Emc-users] CAM solutions

2010-03-21 Thread Ries van Twisk
On Mar 21, 2010, at 8:41 PM, Mike Payson wrote: > Ries, > > Thanks for the recommendation. At $5k, Pro-E is pretty spendy for my > needs, but it looks like they do offer a non-commercial version for > $250. Might be worth considering. > > http://store.ptc.com/DRHM/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Sunday 21 March 2010, Andy Pugh wrote: >On 21 March 2010 19:30, Gene Heskett wrote: >>>http://docs-europe.origin.electrocomponents.com/webdocs/0024/0900766b8002 >>>46 97.pdf >> >> He would need one of those per vfd. > >Indeed. But then you would need one per VFD to run the drives at >different

Re: [Emc-users] G52 and Fanuc conversion to EMC

2010-03-21 Thread Jon Elson
Stuart Stevenson wrote: >> >> The setup is done before the production. The operators were talking about >> the floor to floor production. >> >> As time goes by I will be able to determine why there is an increase in >> production. Machine slide speed is not the reason. I did not try to increase >>