Re: [Emc-users] EMC2, Compensating for friction

2011-01-28 Thread andy pugh
On 28 January 2011 04:24, Erik Christiansen dva...@internode.on.net wrote: Is slack best taken up by carefully measuring existing slack, almost making enough room for the thrust bearings, then skimming to fit? (A shim is easier to trim to size, perhaps.) I am not entirely sure what you are

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Mark Wendt
On 01/27/2011 11:57 PM, Jon Elson wrote: gene heskett wrote: On Thursday, January 27, 2011 01:26:18 pm Kirk Wallace did opine: This link: http://www.beyondlogic.org/epp/epp.htm Good Grief! ISWYM by incredibly sloppy. That is not the official document, of

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Jon Elson
Mark Wendt wrote: Really makes one wonder how any of this stuff works at all. You gotta love it. A standard with no real standards... ;-) Yes, completely appalling, and I have to keep hopping to make my boards work with a wide variety of par port chips. What a nightmare! I think I

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:18 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Mark Wendt wrote: Really makes one wonder how any of this stuff works at all. You gotta love it. A standard with no real standards... ;-) Yes, completely appalling, and I have to keep hopping to make my boards work with a wide

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Kirk Wallace wrote: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 09:47:57 -0800 From: Kirk Wallace kwall...@wallacecompany.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re:

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: This is why the MOSChip data sheet say not to use EPP mode... Do you happen to remember where you saw it? I looked up the datasheet: http://www.datasheetcatalog.org/datasheets2/96/96718_1.pdf and I didn't find any

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Chris Radek
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 02:04:54PM -0500, Przemek Klosowski wrote: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Peter C. Wallace p...@mesanet.com wrote: This is why the MOSChip data sheet say not to use EPP mode... Do you happen to remember where you saw it? I looked up the datasheet:

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Fri, 28 Jan 2011, Chris Radek wrote: Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 13:36:09 -0600 From: Chris Radek ch...@timeguy.com Reply-To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) emc-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Emc-users]

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 09:57 -0800, Peter C. Wallace wrote: ... snip I'm beginning to think that maybe the most popular chip, maybe Moschip 9815, should be considered the standard, then make it work on that. The Lava and Siig cards may be better, but the Moschips are easy to find and cheap.

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 28, 2011 03:10:50 pm Kirk Wallace did opine: On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 11:18 -0600, Jon Elson wrote: Mark Wendt wrote: Really makes one wonder how any of this stuff works at all. You gotta love it. A standard with no real standards... ;-) Yes, completely appalling,

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Igor Chudov
Personally, I have no problem with only 10% of available cards being suitable for EMC, as long as it is clear to users what cards NOT to buy and what cards to buy. I will be hopefully getting the Lava card today and I will report my success, or lack thereof, as soon as I know something. Probably

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 16:13 -0500, gene heskett wrote: ... snip I'm beginning to think that maybe the most popular chip, maybe Moschip 9815, should be considered the standard, then make it work on that. The Lava and Siig cards may be better, but the Moschips are easy to find and cheap.

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Kirk Wallace
On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:55 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip I found a card that looks a lot like a Sunix PAR4018 which is known to work(?), on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815158040 Oops, Newegg's picture has 4008T on the board so it may or may not be a

[Emc-users] Inserted new card -- how to find parallel address -- how to tell EMC2?

2011-01-28 Thread Igor Chudov
I received the Lava card today. I believe that it was shipped from IL and that is why I got it so quickly. I disabled the on-board parallel port in BIOS during reboot. Lspci gives me the following: 04:01.0 Parallel controller: Lava Computer mfg Inc Lava Parallel (rev 03) (prog-if 01)

Re: [Emc-users] Inserted new card -- how to find parallel address -- how to tell EMC2?

2011-01-28 Thread gene heskett
On Friday, January 28, 2011 10:09:43 pm Igor Chudov did opine: I received the Lava card today. I believe that it was shipped from IL and that is why I got it so quickly. I disabled the on-board parallel port in BIOS during reboot. Lspci gives me the following: 04:01.0 Parallel

Re: [Emc-users] Inserted new card -- how to find parallel address -- how to tell EMC2?

2011-01-28 Thread Igor Chudov
Gene, a little update. I received the Lava card today. I installed it in the new PC. I also re-routed internal cabling, such that the cables are not too close to touching the fans. This is a very small case and this always has been a problem. To make PPMC driver see it, I had to say: loadrt

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: I'm beginning to think that maybe the most popular chip, maybe Moschip 9815, should be considered the standard, then make it work on that. The Lava and Siig cards may be better, but the Moschips are easy to find and cheap. The NetMos 9805 is so badly broken that it

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: Based on the estimate that at least 95% of these aftermarket cards are based on this MosChip 9815, could an insmod-able kernel driver could be written that would make it work? Since the PPMC driver, and probably Mesa's, etc. go direct to the port registers with inb

Re: [Emc-users] Second (PCI) parallel port card

2011-01-28 Thread Jon Elson
Kirk Wallace wrote: On Fri, 2011-01-28 at 14:55 -0800, Kirk Wallace wrote: ... snip I found a card that looks a lot like a Sunix PAR4018 which is known to work(?), on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815158040 Oops, Newegg's picture has 4008T on the

Re: [Emc-users] Inserted new card -- how to find parallel address -- how to tell EMC2?

2011-01-28 Thread Jon Elson
gene heskett wrote: On Friday, January 28, 2011 10:09:43 pm Igor Chudov did opine: I received the Lava card today. I believe that it was shipped from IL and that is why I got it so quickly. I disabled the on-board parallel port in BIOS during reboot. Lspci gives me the following:

Re: [Emc-users] Inserted new card -- how to find parallel address -- how to tell EMC2?

2011-01-28 Thread Igor Chudov
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Igor Chudov ichu...@gmail.com wrote: Gene, a little update. I received the Lava card today. I installed it in the new PC. I also re-routed internal cabling, such that the cables are not too close to touching the fans. This is a very small case and this

Re: [Emc-users] Inserted new card -- how to find parallel address -- how to tell EMC2?

2011-01-28 Thread Igor Chudov
On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:15 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday, January 28, 2011 11:10:50 pm Igor Chudov did opine: Gene, a little update. I received the Lava card today. I installed it in the new PC. I also re-routed internal cabling, such that the cables are not

Re: [Emc-users] Inserted new card -- how to find parallel address -- how to tell EMC2?

2011-01-28 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:02:21 am Jon Elson did opine: gene heskett wrote: On Friday, January 28, 2011 10:09:43 pm Igor Chudov did opine: I received the Lava card today. I believe that it was shipped from IL and that is why I got it so quickly. I disabled the on-board parallel

Re: [Emc-users] Inserted new card -- how to find parallel address -- how to tell EMC2?

2011-01-28 Thread gene heskett
On Saturday, January 29, 2011 12:13:02 am Igor Chudov did opine: On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 10:15 PM, gene heskett ghesk...@wdtv.com wrote: On Friday, January 28, 2011 11:10:50 pm Igor Chudov did opine: Gene, a little update. I received the Lava card today. I installed it in the new PC.