Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Viesturs Lācis
2013/11/7 > why doesn't someone try turning the nut not the screw? Bridgeport bosses X > axis screw was bolted to the end of the table > Oh, there have been attempts to do that. I know that Andy has something like that and I myself also built a machine with fixed ballscrew and rotating nut. The

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Dave Cole
That gets rid of the whip/critical speed problem but doesn't solve the cost issue. In general, driving the nut is much more difficult than driving the screw. I have a Bridgeport Series 2 Boss and the X screw is driven via the end of the screw off the left end. Dave On 11/6/2013 8:11 PM, tcnin

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Dave Cole
Gotta love ebay.. :-) On 11/6/2013 5:21 PM, andy pugh wrote: > On 6 November 2013 22:14, Dave Cole wrote: > >> That is a sweet setup you have Andy...That hob does not look cheap.. > eBay, £35. > >> The problem with the Bell Everman drive setup is that by the time you >> cut the belt engageme

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-06 Thread Dave Cole
On 11/6/2013 6:34 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote: > On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 05:26:39 -0500, you wrote: > > >> Ya, I remember the jet engine troops used a lotta that stuff. We used the >> Trich in the electronics shops for cleaning stuff. > A friend of mine is a retired officer from the RAF, he was an > elec

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 23:00:33 tcninj...@yahoo.com did opine: > why doesn't someone try turning the nut not the screw? Bridgeport bosses > X axis screw was bolted to the end of the table > > Terry > When I did the 2nd attempt to make a Z drive for my mill, that is what I did. Now that

Re: [Emc-users] Way to control 6 axis robot, jerk limitation. Araisrobo?

2013-11-06 Thread Marius Alksnys
And I found the same problem here: http://www.linuxcnc.org/index.php/english/forum/9-installing-linuxcnc/26729-installing-on-1204-using-araisrobo-hardware Together with int32_t problem, which I solved by myself.. On 11/07/2013 03:36 AM, Marius Alksnys wrote: > I succeeded installing Precise a

Re: [Emc-users] Way to control 6 axis robot, jerk limitation. Araisrobo?

2013-11-06 Thread Marius Alksnys
Yishin, thank you for the answer. I am using MESA 5i23, 8i20, 7i49 (resolver card). I have 7i43-P (but without USB). I succeeded installing Precise and compiled your LinuxCNC (wow, that was tough!), but I can't run it successfully. LinuxCNC starts, but throws this error while loading: Starting

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 11/6/2013 12:47 PM, Marshland Engineering wrote: > I'm looking to make a new CNC table for both Plasma and possibly Plastic and > Aluminum cutting. It will be about 1.8m x 1.2m. > I was wondering if anyone has a similar configuration that is run with > toothed belts instead of ballscrews? Obvous

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 20:09:55 andy pugh did opine: > On 7 November 2013 00:19, Gene Heskett wrote: > >> IGES file: http://www.bodgesoc.org/cycloidal.igs > > > > Unforch, I don't have a thing that can render that, or make gcode from > > it. Not your fault of course, but I refuse to pay t

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread tcninja12
why doesn't someone try turning the nut not the screw? Bridgeport bosses X axis screw was bolted to the end of the table Terry On Nov 6, 2013, at 5:24 PM, John Thornton wrote: > I have a belt driven plasma table that I've been using for years, in > fact it was my first EMC machine that I bui

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 19:51:17 W. Martinjak did opine: > On 2013-11-07 01:19, Gene Heskett wrote: > > IGES file: http://www.bodgesoc.org/cycloidal.igs > > Unforch, I don't have a thing that can render that, or make gcode from > > it. Not your fault of course, but I refuse to pay the micros

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 7 November 2013 00:19, Gene Heskett wrote: >> IGES file: http://www.bodgesoc.org/cycloidal.igs > > Unforch, I don't have a thing that can render that, or make gcode from it. > Not your fault of course, but I refuse to pay the microsoft tax. IGES is a NIST standard, nothing to do with Microsof

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 19:51:04 W. Martinjak did opine: > On 2013-11-07 01:19, Gene Heskett wrote: > > IGES file: http://www.bodgesoc.org/cycloidal.igs > > Unforch, I don't have a thing that can render that, or make gcode from > > it. Not your fault of course, but I refuse to pay the micros

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread W. Martinjak
On 2013-11-07 01:19, Gene Heskett wrote: > IGES file: http://www.bodgesoc.org/cycloidal.igs > Unforch, I don't have a thing that can render that, or make gcode from it. > Not your fault of course, but I refuse to pay the microsoft tax. > > Cheers, Gene Freecad can handle this type. -- "In der

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 19:16:04 andy pugh did opine: > On 6 November 2013 23:14, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Has trial code to carve been composed yet? > > IGES file: http://www.bodgesoc.org/cycloidal.igs Unforch, I don't have a thing that can render that, or make gcode from it. Not your f

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2013 23:14, Gene Heskett wrote: > Has trial code to carve been composed yet? IGES file: http://www.bodgesoc.org/cycloidal.igs -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto ---

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 06 Nov 2013 15:43:17 -0500, you wrote: >A lot of that depends on your belt arrangement. They make linear >motion belting with a unique tooth profile. They use steel cords in >polyurethane belts to minimize stretch and they can obtain zero backlash >with that setup. To get more rigi

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-06 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Wed, 6 Nov 2013 05:26:39 -0500, you wrote: >Ya, I remember the jet engine troops used a lotta that stuff. We used the >Trich in the electronics shops for cleaning stuff. A friend of mine is a retired officer from the RAF, he was an electrical/electronics engineer in the 60's/70's and he told

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2013 23:14, Gene Heskett wrote: >> Eccentricity could be adjusted by a second, thin, static eccentric >> round the main one. > > Ok, I wondered about that since the animation doesn't show that at all It's not there to show :-) > Has trial code to carve been composed yet? I only d

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread John Thornton
I have a belt driven plasma table that I've been using for years, in fact it was my first EMC machine that I built. The biggest problem with my design is the linear bearings that I used, they just slide over the extruded aluminum. I would go with bigger belts next time or invest in the dual bel

Re: [Emc-users] Talking of taps

2013-11-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
"A 608 label from the very early years of the 29th century" What? Buck Rogers' several times great grandson's lathe? On 11/6/2013 9:44 AM, Dave Cole wrote: > You gotta warn us when you send us machine tool porn..;-) > > The one at the bottom of the web page would look great in my family > roo

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 17:58:53 andy pugh did opine: > On 6 November 2013 21:08, Gene Heskett wrote: > > That sure looks doable. And scalable to any size. And with that many > > teeth engaged at once, it should be essentially unbreakable and very > > low lash if properly adjusted with th

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2013 22:14, Dave Cole wrote: > That is a sweet setup you have Andy...That hob does not look cheap.. eBay, £35. > The problem with the Bell Everman drive setup is that by the time you > cut the belt engagement grooves in the mating surface ... > I saw another setup where they g

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Dave Cole
That is a sweet setup you have Andy...That hob does not look cheap.. The problem with the Bell Everman drive setup is that by the time you cut the belt engagement grooves in the mating surface you have basically created a rack that is engaged with a belt rather than a pinion and to me that d

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2013 21:08, Gene Heskett wrote: > That sure looks doable. And scalable to any size. And with that many > teeth engaged at once, it should be essentially unbreakable and very low > lash if properly adjusted with the wedges. They, I assume actually adjust > the eccentricity of inne

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 16:02:21 andy pugh did opine: > On 4 November 2013 00:03, Florian Rist wrote: > > Hmm, so I don't get it. The ratio is almost one so, right? > > I made an animation to demonstrate the concept: > http://youtu.be/VrvwlPxRhKU That sure looks doable. And scalable to a

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2013 19:47, Marshland Engineering wrote: > I was wondering if anyone has a similar configuration that is run with > toothed belts instead of ballscrews? Have a look at the Bell-Everman "Servobelt" arrangement. That minimises the amount of belt that has the chance to stretch and, by

Re: [Emc-users] Rotary stage

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 4 November 2013 00:03, Florian Rist wrote: > Hmm, so I don't get it. The ratio is almost one so, right? I made an animation to demonstrate the concept: http://youtu.be/VrvwlPxRhKU -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto

Re: [Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Dave Cole
A lot of that depends on your belt arrangement. They make linear motion belting with a unique tooth profile. They use steel cords in polyurethane belts to minimize stretch and they can obtain zero backlash with that setup. To get more rigidity you can go with a wider belt but then the pric

[Emc-users] OD CNC table drives.

2013-11-06 Thread Marshland Engineering
I'm looking to make a new CNC table for both Plasma and possibly Plastic and Aluminum cutting. It will be about 1.8m x 1.2m. I was wondering if anyone has a similar configuration that is run with toothed belts instead of ballscrews? Obvously a lot cheaper option, however, I was wondering on the

Re: [Emc-users] Talking of taps

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 13:07:54 Ron Bean did opine: > >And the Rivett 608 lathe really is a thing of beauty. > > For the record: > http://www.lathes.co.uk/rivett/page2.html That bigger Porter I looked at, still $500, sitting out in the weather, is a piece of junk compared to that. First

Re: [Emc-users] Talking of taps

2013-11-06 Thread Dave Cole
You gotta warn us when you send us machine tool porn..;-) The one at the bottom of the web page would look great in my family room.. :-) Dave On 11/6/2013 11:16 AM, Ron Bean wrote: >> And the Rivett 608 lathe really is a thing of beauty. > For the record: > http://www.lathes.co.uk/rivett/p

Re: [Emc-users] Talking of taps

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2013 16:16, Ron Bean wrote: > For the record: > http://www.lathes.co.uk/rivett/page2.html Still figuring out how to CNC it :-) -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own it. http://www.ifixit.com/Manifesto --

Re: [Emc-users] Talking of taps

2013-11-06 Thread Ron Bean
>And the Rivett 608 lathe really is a thing of beauty. For the record: http://www.lathes.co.uk/rivett/page2.html -- November Webinars for C, C++, Fortran Developers Accelerate application performance with scalable progra

Re: [Emc-users] Way to control 6 axis robot, jerk limitation. Araisrobo?

2013-11-06 Thread Robert Ellenberg
Hi Greg, Good idea! I've worked with IKFast and OpenRAVE for a few years as part of my graduate work, and it's definitely a powerful system. The really nice thing about it is that it outputs C++ code that can be compiled into another program, and has standardized inputs and outputs. The solvers c

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - Updates 2

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 09:55:07 Bertho Stultiens did opine: > On 11/06/2013 03:06 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > A suggestion Bertho. Your original message and the link to the > > tarball is now well off screen in the message list. Could you add it > > to your sig? > > I will add a link for

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - Updates 2

2013-11-06 Thread Bertho Stultiens
On 11/06/2013 03:06 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > A suggestion Bertho. Your original message and the link to the tarball is > now well off screen in the message list. Could you add it to your sig? I will add a link for future update messages. All should be available from: http://www.vagrearg.org/c

Re: [Emc-users] gcmc - Updates 2

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 09:01:36 Bertho Stultiens did opine: > Hi All, > > I've been updating the gcmc code continually. > > Current version 1.1.0 highlights are: > - Add angular value units (degree and radian) > - Add value unit query functions > - Make LHS dominant for unit conversions i

Re: [Emc-users] Saved position, resolvers and homing

2013-11-06 Thread Marius Alksnys
2013.11.06 14:55, andy pugh rašė: > I think that sounds like a bug, and probably should be added to the > bug tracker. Andy, will you add it? I could, but never did this before.. >> >Another problem, as I mentioned, is that it restores wrong position when >> >home_offset is used. I think it is of

Re: [Emc-users] Saved position, resolvers and homing

2013-11-06 Thread Gene Heskett
On Wednesday 06 November 2013 08:34:50 andy pugh did opine: > On 5 November 2013 23:12, Marius Alksnys wrote: > > On 11/06/2013 12:38 AM, andy pugh wrote: > >> Does the NO_FORCE_HOMING INI-file switch not achieve what you need? > > > > I am using NO_FORCE_HOMING, but strangely, I can go to worl

[Emc-users] gcmc - Updates 2

2013-11-06 Thread Bertho Stultiens
Hi All, I've been updating the gcmc code continually. Current version 1.1.0 highlights are: - Add angular value units (degree and radian) - Add value unit query functions - Make LHS dominant for unit conversions in operations - Divide operation strips units if both LHS and RHS are of same unit cl

Re: [Emc-users] Saved position, resolvers and homing

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 5 November 2013 23:12, Marius Alksnys wrote: > On 11/06/2013 12:38 AM, andy pugh wrote: >> Does the NO_FORCE_HOMING INI-file switch not achieve what you need? > > I am using NO_FORCE_HOMING, but strangely, I can go to world mode for > first machine turn-on or first time going to world mode (I d

Re: [Emc-users] Drill sharpening Re: G33.1 probem

2013-11-06 Thread John Thornton
Well that is neat but the plans are only in the Home Shop Machinest and you can't get the plans as Vol. 31 No. 1 of HSM is not offered in the back issues section. JT On 11/5/2013 1:35 PM, Kenneth Lerman wrote: > A friend of mine, John Moran has been working on drill sharpeners for > the home sh

Re: [Emc-users] Talking of taps

2013-11-06 Thread Mark Wendt
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 4:29 AM, andy pugh wrote: > > Well, to be fair, they started making them before the thread standards > were rationalised, and unless a previous owner has lost/broken parts > of the machine then there is no reason that you would ever have to > replace them. > > And the Rivet

Re: [Emc-users] G33.1 probem

2013-11-06 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Steve Blackmore wrote: > On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 05:07:41 -0500, you wrote: > > >Is Carbon Tet still easily available? I've used it for cleaning stuff > back > >in my USAF days, along with 1,1,1 Trich. I know Trich ain't available > >anymore. > > Trich was supposed to

Re: [Emc-users] Drill sharpening Re: G33.1 probem

2013-11-06 Thread Mark Wendt
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 2:35 PM, Kenneth Lerman wrote: > > A friend of mine, John Moran has been working on drill sharpeners for > the home shop for many years. See: > http://www.gadgetbuilder.com/DrillSharp.html for a great article on the > subject. > > If you have any questions, I'm sure John wou

Re: [Emc-users] Talking of taps

2013-11-06 Thread andy pugh
On 6 November 2013 03:31, Jon Elson wrote: >> (Yes, the same machine has #8-30 and #8-40 threads mere >> inches away from each other) > BOY, glad I don't own a Rivett! I hope they had a good reason for doing > that! Well, to be fair, they started making them before the thread standards were ra

Re: [Emc-users] Way to control 6 axis robot, jerk limitation. Araisrobo?

2013-11-06 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 11/5/2013 11:44 PM, Sven Wesley wrote: > 2013/11/6 Marius Alksnys > >> I am using master branch. >> >> On 11/05/2013 11:29 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: >>> What branch are you using? I believe the joints_axes4 branch may have >>> some of these issues fixed. >> >> > Sebastian (in Stuttgart) a