Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mazak QT 20 T1 with Fanuc spindle drive problem

2014-07-21 Thread Gregg Eshelman
>>> Indeed. A couple of years ago, I asked to mazak for the replacement for the >>> standar CRT monitor. They quoted me US 5000 more or less, for the entire >>> unit. By that time, we were using the lathe with an old CGA monitor, >>> because the frequency is the same. I bought an adaptation board f

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mazak QT 20 T1 with Fanuc spindle drive problem

2014-07-21 Thread dave
Ouch! Maybe they deserve to go out of business! Something like leading a horse to water. ;-) Dave On Fri, 2014-07-18 at 11:23 -0400, Dave Cole wrote: > On 7/17/2014 6:37 PM, Leonardo Marsaglia wrote: > > 2014-07-17 16:18 GMT-03:00 dave : > > > >> Mazak's policy is set up to encourage you to

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread jeremy youngs
no but i have taken several exams at the pb high school near the steak and shake jeremy youngs On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:44 PM, John Thornton wrote: > I assumed you meant Malden, which is just a few minutes away from Poplar > Bluff. Have you ever eaten at Hydes (east of PB out in the middle

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread John Thornton
I assumed you meant Malden, which is just a few minutes away from Poplar Bluff. Have you ever eaten at Hydes (east of PB out in the middle of nowhere)? JT On 7/21/2014 6:34 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: > malden sorry > > > > jeremy youngs > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:33 PM, jeremy youngs wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread jeremy youngs
my sister is in malsen , after 2.5 yrs back in upstate ny i am ready to get back to the home stead in the ozarks . I do intend on visiting a few of the membership here though and maybe onece resettled open my place to hang out , but more on that as i get headed that way . boss is peaved i played ho

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread jeremy youngs
malden sorry jeremy youngs On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 7:33 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: > my sister is in malsen , after 2.5 yrs back in upstate ny i am ready to > get back to the home stead in the ozarks . I do intend on visiting a few of > the membership here though and maybe onece resettled open

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread John Thornton
Hey Jeremy, Drop by any time (well call, text or e-mail me to make sure I'm home first) I love to have visitors here in my little corner of Swamp East Missouri. JT On 7/21/2014 1:13 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: > well john !!! > the truth is I am playing hooky , packing stuff up and dont currently

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread John Thornton
Hi Seb, Thanks, have you seen the mill G code generator yet? http://gnipsel.com/files/g-code-generator/ JT On 7/21/2014 12:28 PM, Sebastian Kuzminsky wrote: > On 7/21/14 10:13 , John Thornton wrote: >> I'm writing a little Python program to give me RPM and IPM for twist >> drills. I have found

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread Steve Blackmore
On Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:06:57 +0200, you wrote: >I saw a clever plan once where the guy attached a square piece of steel >to the bottom of the vise. The steel fits the table T slot precisely. He >then lined the vise up and tightened the piece of steel in place. This >way you can remove the vise

Re: [Emc-users] OT: newbie instruction

2014-07-21 Thread Marcus Bowman
I'm obviously biased, but you could try: http://www.crowood.com/details.asp?isbn=9781847975126&t=CNC-Milling-in-the-Workshop---Crowood-Metalworking-Guides available through Amazon, or Book Depository (worldwide, free shipping): http://www.bookdepository.com/CNC-Milling-Workshop-Marcus-Bowman/97

[Emc-users] OT: newbie instruction

2014-07-21 Thread Herb Fuhrer
Hello and good day all. I've been on the list for a couple months ( since buying a cheapo 3040cnc on eBay ), and read the digests enthusiastically even tho to say I understand 2% would be stretchin it. Would anyone have recommendations for some self education ? Books / manuals to buy - geared

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread jeremy youngs
Yup, I agree! if the keys were tight enough to get a few tenths alignment from end to end on the vise jaw, it would be hard to put the key into the slot. Also, my understanding of the way the slots are made in at least some machines is the slots are milled first, then the dovetails are cut (or sc

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread jeremy youngs
oh the print isnt terribly small but its also not giant either , when working with the mazaks and cutting at 350 ipm this calculator was surpriingly accurate, it was always interesting proving programs on a half million dollar machine with a 3000 dollar part and a 2500 dollar face mill and letting

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread jeremy youngs
well john !!! the truth is I am playing hooky , packing stuff up and dont currently know the whereabouts of said item :( i think it may be here at the house , rather it is packed already i do not know , if it is here i will answer your question if it is already packed it will be after the first whe

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread John Thornton
Jeremy, The photo is rather small, is the calculator small with tiny print? My eyes like big print. Just for S&G what does your calculator say for drilling a 1/2" hole in aluminum with a 135° split point? JT On 7/21/2014 12:18 PM, jeremy youngs wrote: > john this is the standby reference that

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread Sebastian Kuzminsky
On 7/21/14 10:13 , John Thornton wrote: > I'm writing a little Python program to give me RPM and IPM for twist > drills. I have found some conflicting and some very old charts for feed > per revolution like this one: > > http://www.free-ed.net/sweethaven/IndustrialTech/machinist01/pics/ch04.h1.gif

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread Jon Elson
On 07/21/2014 11:44 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, > my experience dictates > "DO NOT TRUST KEYS TO ALIGN VISES AND HOLDING FIXTURES!!!" > always verify the alignment with appropriate precision devices > Yup, I agree! if the keys were tight enough to get a few tenths alignment from e

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread jeremy youngs
john this is the standby reference that i start with it is a really good reference and the ONE that i trust most , well worth the 20 bucks. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Machinists-Speed-Feed-Calculator-CNC-Mill-Tooling-/230704129486?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35b709a5ce jeremy youngs On Mon, Ju

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread TJoseph Powderly
Stuart Agreed! keys, dowels and ground rear rails of slots are only to get you closer quickly you gotta tram it in TomP tjtr33 On 07/21/2014 11:44 AM, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, > my experience dictates > "DO NOT TRUST KEYS TO ALIGN VISES AND HOLDING FIXTURES!!!" > always verify the

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread Philipp Burch
Hi Stuart, true, but it's much easier to just verify that the alignment is correct than to align it without a key ;) Cheers, Philipp On 21.07.2014 18:44, Stuart Stevenson wrote: > Gentlemen, > my experience dictates > "DO NOT TRUST KEYS TO ALIGN VISES AND HOLDING FIXTURES!!!" > always verify

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread Stuart Stevenson
Gentlemen, my experience dictates "DO NOT TRUST KEYS TO ALIGN VISES AND HOLDING FIXTURES!!!" always verify the alignment with appropriate precision devices just my 2 cents Stuart On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 6:52 AM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Monday 21 July 2014 07:19:42 andy pugh did opine > And

[Emc-users] OT: Twist Drills

2014-07-21 Thread John Thornton
I'm writing a little Python program to give me RPM and IPM for twist drills. I have found some conflicting and some very old charts for feed per revolution like this one: http://www.free-ed.net/sweethaven/IndustrialTech/machinist01/pics/ch04.h1.gif I use mostly screw machine drills with 135° sp

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 21 July 2014 07:19:42 andy pugh did opine And Gene did reply: > On 21 July 2014 12:06, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > > I saw a clever plan once where the guy attached a square piece of > > steel to the bottom of the vise. The steel fits the table T slot > > precisely. I do that when making

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread Pete Matos
All I can say... Is that I have had the cheap vices and tried to get one ground even to be flat and square. The reality tho is that if you really want to make parts and not screw around with things and waste time, the Kurt vises and some of the other top end vises are worth every single thin pe

Re: [Emc-users] joint

2014-07-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 July 2014 06:59, a k wrote: > to stop m52 p1 is m53 M53 is Feed Stop Control, it enables the feed-hold pin, it doesn't disable adaptive feed. http://www.linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/m-code.html#sec:M52-Adaptive-Feed-Control M52 P0 turns off adaptive feed. -- atp If you can't fix it, you

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 July 2014 12:31, Stephen Dubovsky wrote: > All Kurt vises are keyed on the bottom. They even sell the keys in > different stepped widths IIRC. For a specific machine table it possible to imagine 3 (or more) square pegs that align the vice to the T-slots in the 4 cardinal positions. (I thin

Re: [Emc-users] joint

2014-07-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 July 2014 12:19, John Thornton wrote: > I'm always amazed that people will read documents for other things and > expect them to apply to LinuxCNC... I am fairly sure that Smithy will be quoting LinuxCNC behaviour, but I agree it is not the obvious place to look. > Try reading the LinuxCNC

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread Stephen Dubovsky
All Kurt vises are keyed on the bottom. They even sell the keys in different stepped widths IIRC. My import vises are also keyed the same (but included the keys and have to be ground down if you have something other than a bridgeport sized slot.) So maybe the guy wasn't so clever;) They do repea

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 July 2014 12:06, Marius Liebenberg wrote: > I saw a clever plan once where the guy attached a square piece of steel > to the bottom of the vise. The steel fits the table T slot precisely. I keep meaning to fit a key to the bottom of my vice. Or alternatively, something I saw on the internet

Re: [Emc-users] joint

2014-07-21 Thread John Thornton
I'm always amazed that people will read documents for other things and expect them to apply to LinuxCNC... Try reading the LinuxCNC docs. Here is the link http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/ JT On 7/21/2014 12:59 AM, a k wrote: > i found this > http://www.smithy.com/cnc-reference-info/chapter-5/m52

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread Marius Liebenberg
I saw a clever plan once where the guy attached a square piece of steel to the bottom of the vise. The steel fits the table T slot precisely. He then lined the vise up and tightened the piece of steel in place. This way you can remove the vise and replace it ti the same alignment every time. An

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Mill Vise Advise

2014-07-21 Thread andy pugh
On 21 July 2014 07:33, Steve Blackmore wrote: > Mill them. An insert face and side mill will give a really good finish > and good enough for a machine vice. If you mill them in-situ then they will be perfectly square and true too. Until you move them. -- atp If you can't fix it, you don't own

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Anyone Have Code to Print This?

2014-07-21 Thread Gregg Eshelman
On 7/20/2014 3:39 PM, Przemek Klosowski wrote: > The trick with rocket engines is to prevent them from burning themselves up > while burning the maximum amount of fuel. Therefore, it's a complicated > fluid dynamics/thermal management problem, with fuel lines cooling the > combustion/expansion cham

Re: [Emc-users] OT: Anyone Have Code to Print This?

2014-07-21 Thread Marius Liebenberg
And the sad thing is that we are loosing those kind of craftsmen at an alarming rate. The young ones dont want to be tough hand skills any more. You cant blame them because on a day to day basis, one cannot provide enough income to survive just on hand skills. The market is just to fast and com