Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-17 Thread Thomas D. Dean
I have buster installed and rtai-modules-4.14.148_5.2.3-linuxcnc_amd64.deb I built linuxcnc, running the buster rtai kernel, from the git sources. dpkg-checkbuilddeps found most of the needed packages. It missed 5, bwidgit, libtk-img, tclx, python-gtk2, and python-yapps. After build-in-place,

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-17 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
John, I'll be uploading some pictures and video with pleasure. This machine is a Mazak lathe that we should have retrofitted to LCNC a year ago, but because of lack of time and a lof of work we had to postpone. The lathe itself is working fine (we only replaced the spindle drive and monitor) but s

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-17 Thread John Dammeyer
Looking forward to seeing some photos. John > -Original Message- > From: Leonardo Marsaglia [mailto:ldmarsag...@gmail.com] > Sent: December-17-19 3:43 PM > To: Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC) > Subject: Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration > > My mistake. 7i70 is for inputs and 7i

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-17 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
By the way, the board is the 6i24-25. I don't know if I pointed out that earlier. El mar., 17 dic. 2019 a las 20:43, Leonardo Marsaglia (< ldmarsag...@gmail.com>) escribió: > My mistake. 7i70 is for inputs and 7i71 for outputs. > > - 7i73 <> Pendant, and buttons on t

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-17 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
My mistake. 7i70 is for inputs and 7i71 for outputs. - 7i73 <> Pendant, and buttons on the main panel / > 7i44 -7i70 <-Sensors, limit switches, etc... / \ 6i24 -7i71>Relays \ -7i52

Re: [Emc-users] 6i24 + 7i44 configuration

2019-12-17 Thread Leonardo Marsaglia
Well, today I purchased the 7i52S to finally have my setup completed. I was checking the spindle manual today and I found it can be driven by pulses too, so I don't need to have an analog out for that. That takes the 7i33 out of the game for this machine. So to sum up, this is how is going to be

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages

2019-12-17 Thread Dave Matthews
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 2:00 PM John Dammeyer wrote: > > Actually I think it's at one pulse per two base periods. One to set the step > signals high, one to set them low. The document referenced by "bari", > > How to choose your base period: > http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TweakingSo

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-17 Thread Thomas D. Dean
Upgrading to buster was successful. I got the RTAI kernel installed. linuxcnc has dependency problems. It wants python-vte, which wants libvte-common=1:0.28.2-5. libvte-common=1:0.28.2-6 is on the repo's. If I install libvte-common=1:0.28.2-5, it breaks other things... Trying to fix this wi

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages

2019-12-17 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 19:00, John Dammeyer wrote: > > Actually I think it's at one pulse per two base periods. One to set the step > signals high, one to set them low. The parport driver offers a "reset" function that sets selected pins back to zero. You can run this later in the thread than t

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages

2019-12-17 Thread John Dammeyer
Actually I think it's at one pulse per two base periods. One to set the step signals high, one to set them low. The document referenced by "bari", How to choose your base period: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?TweakingSoftwareStepGeneration explains that in detail. John Dammeyer >

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages

2019-12-17 Thread John Dammeyer
> From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 23:42, John Dammeyer > wrote: > > > For example. The board in the machine at the moment generates a Servo > Jitter of 33217 and Base Jitter of 131983. > > That's fairly terrible. > > Out of interest, how well does that mach

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages

2019-12-17 Thread Dave Matthews
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 12:55 PM andy pugh wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 17:47, Dave Matthews wrote: > > > For those of us in the cheap seats how does the base thread frequency > > relate to the maximum number of words per second sent to the parallel > > port? > > The system can send a maximu

Re: [Emc-users] about NML - RCS_CMD_CHANNEL/EMC_CMD_MSG - EMC_AUX_ESTOP_ON

2019-12-17 Thread John Dammeyer
> -Original Message- > From: andy pugh [mailto:bodge...@gmail.com] > On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 18:46, theman whosoldtheworld > wrote: > > > Not understand very well these point .. > > Nor do I. > I feel that his thread here might have touched on some of the same issues. > https://forum.li

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages

2019-12-17 Thread Eric Keller
In the past, I have had a reasonable amount of luck reducing real time delays by building a custom kernel. Not sure if those kinds of gains are still possible. And it's a lot of work unless you are using realtime preempt. As far as Gene's problem with the beep, they are probably using the 8051 o

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages

2019-12-17 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 17:47, Dave Matthews wrote: > For those of us in the cheap seats how does the base thread frequency > relate to the maximum number of words per second sent to the parallel > port? The system can send a maximum of one pulse per base period. -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicyc

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages

2019-12-17 Thread Dave Matthews
On Tue, Dec 17, 2019 at 9:22 AM Peter C. Wallace wrote: > > You can get really bad base jitter if you try to run the base thread faster > than > the machine is capable of responding (the latency-tests default 40 KHz base > thread is too fast for some systems so you might get considerably better >

Re: [Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-17 Thread andy pugh
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019 at 16:03, Thomas D. Dean wrote: > 4. Install the deb's > cd ~/RTAI > sudo dpkg -i *.deb > > The part I am most unsure about is the dpkg command. Does that look > reasonable? I think I would do the install one at a time, (kernel then RTAI then LinuxCNC then docs) apt-get in

[Emc-users] Buster RTAI

2019-12-17 Thread Thomas D. Dean
Changing from the 'Latency Warning Messages', thread, I plan to test upgrading stretch to buster rtai. The steps are: 1. Fetch the RTAI deb's into ~/RTAI: cd ~/RTAI wget http://www.linuxcnc.org/temp/linux-headers-4.14.148-rtai-amd64.deb wget http://www.linuxcnc.org/temp/linux-image-4.14.148-rt

Re: [Emc-users] about NML - RCS_CMD_CHANNEL/EMC_CMD_MSG - EMC_AUX_ESTOP_ON

2019-12-17 Thread theman whosoldtheworld
Thanks I try to ask on forum not see that thread previously. I read now but not see things that can help me. I make somethings of similar with modbus work well but there is not a fast response with (max 50ms) someone suggested me sdi bus but is not my ideas ... so that the

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages

2019-12-17 Thread Peter C. Wallace
On Tue, 17 Dec 2019, andy pugh wrote: Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2019 11:32:22 + From: andy pugh Reply-To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" To: "Enhanced Machine Controller (EMC)" Subject: Re: [Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 23:42, John Dammeyer wrote: For ex

Re: [Emc-users] Latency Warning Messages

2019-12-17 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 23:42, John Dammeyer wrote: > For example. The board in the machine at the moment generates a Servo Jitter > of 33217 and Base Jitter of 131983. That's fairly terrible. Out of interest, how well does that machine work with Mach3? -- atp "A motorcycle is a bicycle with

Re: [Emc-users] about NML - RCS_CMD_CHANNEL/EMC_CMD_MSG - EMC_AUX_ESTOP_ON

2019-12-17 Thread andy pugh
On Mon, 16 Dec 2019 at 18:46, theman whosoldtheworld wrote: > Not understand very well these point .. Nor do I. I feel that his thread here might have touched on some of the same issues. https://forum.linuxcnc.org/41-guis/36920-labview-ui-project-for-linuxcnc?start=0 -- atp "A motorcycle is a