Re: [Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-11 Thread andrew beck
the option I just thought of while googling is, can I convert the sin cos format in to a normal TTL or something like that? even 1000 ppr would be heaps it is only on the spindle. I just want to get the data into the vfd so It knows when the motors is slowing down. and so I can rigid tap and

[Emc-users] trying to connect a encoder from cnc spindle motor to schiender vfd

2020-02-11 Thread andrew beck
Hi guys wondering if anyone has any ideas here. I have a heidanhain spindle motor that runs up to 1 rpm and has a 5v sin cos encoder on it. I am currently controlling the motor with a schiender vfd. I am talking to the support engineers here in New Zealand about buying a encoder card so I

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 February 2020 21:55:55 Jon Elson wrote: > On 02/11/2020 12:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > What sort of glue can I use that can withstand an oily environment > > of light 00w20 for many years? > > I used either PC-7, in the red and black metal cans. I have > not had any problems so

Re: [Emc-users] Linuxcnc 2.9.0 hangs

2020-02-11 Thread Thomas D. Dean
On 2020-02-05 01:57, andy pugh wrote: On Wed, 5 Feb 2020 at 04:25, Thomas D. Dean wrote: How do I do a clean install of buster rtai and llinuxcnc? Experimental at the moment. But: 1) Install Buster 2) Download the .debs at www.linuxcnc.org/temp 3) Install the Linux-image and Linux-headers

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Jon Elson
On 02/11/2020 12:27 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: What sort of glue can I use that can withstand an oily environment of light 00w20 for many years? I used either PC-7, in the red and black metal cans. I have not had any problems so far. Jon ___

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 February 2020 20:17:12 dave engvall wrote: > I like the idea of iso-propanol. The only thing that would improve the > process is vapor degreasing. The trick of a non-filled epoxy as a > primer is good. Why didn't I think of that. ;-) > > The Navy uses acetone for degreasing  before

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 February 2020 19:38:01 Bruce Layne wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:30 AM Gene Heskett > > > > wrote: > >> Cleaned up with acetone of course. > > Cleaning with acetone will result in a good epoxy bond.  Cleaning with > isopropyl alcohol will result in an excellent epoxy bond. 

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread dave engvall
I like the idea of iso-propanol. The only thing that would improve the process is vapor degreasing. The trick of a non-filled epoxy as a primer is good. Why didn't I think of that. ;-) The Navy uses acetone for degreasing  before using loc-tite on their nuclear stuff. Degrease, blow dry, add

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Chris Albertson
I have never tested WB Weld with a magnet. I have a bunch of powerfull magnets around and never thought to see if one would stick to a tube of JB Weld. But I've used other epoxy systems. You can mix many things with epoxy, up to over 80% by volume and the composite is MUCH stronger than pure

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Bruce Layne
> On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:30 AM Gene Heskett > wrote: > >> Cleaned up with acetone of course. Cleaning with acetone will result in a good epoxy bond.  Cleaning with isopropyl alcohol will result in an excellent epoxy bond.  Commercial acetone, at least in the US, is recovered from

Re: [Emc-users] closing the loop in linuxcnc with a 7i76 mesa card and step direction control

2020-02-11 Thread andrew beck
Hey Todd. Was there a reason you went to a 7i85 rather than a 7i76 and 7i84? All I can think of is you didn't need the extra io of the 7i76. So could do it with only two cards. Regards Andrew On Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 3:11 AM Todd Zuercher wrote: > I'm using a 5i25+7i85s to run a large gang

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-11 Thread dave engvall
If " 'nix" were suddenly removed from the world the internet and a whole bunch of other thing would disappear. Just to rock the boat: mesa (PCW) has a very nice motion controller for an FPGA. 50 us cycle time, etc. "ALL" someone has to do is wrap  interp and all the other non-motion stuff

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread dave engvall
AFIK Araldite is a non-filled epoxy. I've always taken that as the Brit name for plain epoxy.  OTOH JB also make a clear 5 min expoy as do others. I grew up with a  quart of (Shell at the tme) Epon828 in the cupboard. Handy stuff. I once mixed an epoxy using tri-mellitc  (sp??) anhydride  as a

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread dave engvall
Yep! As long as your environment doesn't  have chlorinated solvents you are OK. Even my Ace Hdwe carries it. Dave On 2/11/20 10:34 AM, Chris Albertson wrote: "JB Weld" Epoxy. It is a mixture of two part epoxy and steel powder. Get it at any auto parts store or Home Depot. On Tue, Feb 11,

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-11 Thread Todd Zuercher
Maybe it's a little like this. Linuxcnc is a bit like an Amphicar. Maybe not the greatest car or the greatest boat, but to break one apart into a separate car and boat (or make it only usable as one or the other) would make it less than it is as a whole. (I know the analogy breaks down where

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Bruce Layne
On 2/11/20 2:53 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > On Tuesday 11 February 2020 13:34:29 Chris Albertson wrote: > >> "JB Weld" Epoxy. It is a mixture of two part epoxy and steel powder. >> Get it at any auto parts store or Home Depot. >> > It it magnetic enough to fool an ATS-667? Thats been the

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-11 Thread Chris Albertson
You care where the loop are because if they are in your PC you need a special PC with a special OS. But look at how most 3D printers work. They are just like 4 axis milling machines, typically using 4 stepper motors and no one needs a special PC or OS to make prints. In all cases the designers

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 February 2020 14:20:01 Marcus Bowman wrote: > On 11 Feb 2020, at 18:34, Chris Albertson wrote: > > "JB Weld" Epoxy. It is a mixture of two part epoxy and steel > > powder. Get it at any auto parts store or Home Depot. > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:30 AM Gene Heskett wrote:

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 February 2020 13:34:29 Chris Albertson wrote: > "JB Weld" Epoxy. It is a mixture of two part epoxy and steel powder. > Get it at any auto parts store or Home Depot. > It it magnetic enough to fool an ATS-667? Thats been the reason I haven't tried it. I have some but it could be

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Marcus Bowman
On 11 Feb 2020, at 18:34, Chris Albertson wrote: > "JB Weld" Epoxy. It is a mixture of two part epoxy and steel powder. Get > it at any auto parts store or Home Depot. > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:30 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > >> >> >> What sort of glue can I use that can withstand an

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-11 Thread N
> While I don't have a problem with separating the motion control and the HMI > hardware. (it is how most commercial CNCs have done it for the past 30 years > or more.) Have an old Sodick wire EDM built this way and think it is a rather good idea though which components are readily available

Re: [Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Chris Albertson
"JB Weld" Epoxy. It is a mixture of two part epoxy and steel powder. Get it at any auto parts store or Home Depot. On Tue, Feb 11, 2020 at 10:30 AM Gene Heskett wrote: > Greetings all; > > I went tp play with the lathe after reboot the rpi4 with cpu_freq raised > to 800 megs. > > All of a

[Emc-users] question about glue

2020-02-11 Thread Gene Heskett
Greetings all; I went tp play with the lathe after reboot the rpi4 with cpu_freq raised to 800 megs. All of a sudden the spindle tach got noisy, then quit. removeing the heads lid, I could see a good coat of the 5w20 I've been useing for spindle oil had flung out of the side face of the

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-11 Thread Todd Zuercher
While I don't have a problem with separating the motion control and the HMI hardware. (it is how most commercial CNCs have done it for the past 30 years or more.) But being more like a printer isn't a good thing. I've used CNCs whose controls are set up very similar to how a printer works,

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-11 Thread Gene Heskett
On Tuesday 11 February 2020 08:14:30 Les Newell wrote: > > What I really > > meant was that with a printer, all the critical timing happens in > > the printer. There are no servo-loops on the PC and you don't need > > a real-time OS to print to paper. > > Who cares where the servo loops or

Re: [Emc-users] closing the loop in linuxcnc with a 7i76 mesa card and step direction control

2020-02-11 Thread Todd Zuercher
I'm using a 5i25+7i85s to run a large gang router with step/dir servos. This machine has a lot of mechanical warts that have made getting a good tune on the servos difficult. Having the encoder feedback made tuning a little easier, and saves me from having to break out the o-scope to work on

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-11 Thread Les Newell
What I really meant was that with a printer, all the critical timing happens in the printer. There are no servo-loops on the PC and you don't need a real-time OS to print to paper. Who cares where the servo loops or trajectory planning are? When the end user presses a button to move the

Re: [Emc-users] Open source CNC architecture

2020-02-11 Thread Chris Albertson
I said people *want* to use CNC like a laser printer. Most setups are not that good. It is a goal and if designing a new system. It is good to set the bar high and try to do what can't be done today.What I really meant was that with a printer, all the critical timing happens in the

Re: [Emc-users] rpi4b for servos

2020-02-11 Thread Chris Albertson
Maybe WiFi for network connectivity to the outside world.I find WiFi is fast enough that I can NFS mount my files from a server and not have to store them locally on the Pi. Unlike older Pi3, the Pi4 has very good networking and also very fast USB3 On Mon, Feb 10, 2020 at 8:29 AM andy pugh